BJ Factory

[Ashleypink]

thanks for the info guys, especially Tooparik and white dragon!

 

[sweetiepie]

si, thanks for the help. If you go again let me know, when you walk down the side of the HM, do you go 1/2 way down 3/4 the way down or do you pass the back of the HM altogether, if so how far. That I think would just about be unscrewupable for me. Thanks again.

 

[lovincupcakez]

I have been this factory last week.
Tooparik's post is perfect.
This is 5 minutes walk from Xiantiandi.

And sometimes a girl try to get more much money than Shanghais 130RMB.
I was offerred to pay 230RMB in a dark room but it is better to say "No" to a girl.

 

[Mum knows best]

expat, the one that i went to was on the street about 2-5 minute walk down the street. if you are walking down the street, it's on your left side. there were a lot of people standing right around the store front, maybe there is a bus stop close by, i really didn't pay that close of attention. i went during the day, so neon lights on, but you can not see through the windows. there was a selection of women there and the one i chose had big tits! i hope this kind of helps you.

 

[Evan Blows Bubbles]

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Tried twice. Couldn't find. Left of HM is a street (car go both ways on it) there were several MP (not just one) I tried the two that had a 2nd story. Niether were what I was looking for. Is it on the street, if so how far down? Or, is it in the ally that is ajecent to the side street. No blue or purple light either. I realize it could be gone, I'm just giving it a shot. Any more navagation available?
expat

 

[vulcan]

I write this as a little warning, particularly if you are visiting a BBS in shanghai.

Early last year I visited a BBS that I knew offered FS. The night I went there I was only after a simple massage and chose a nice girl and headed to the back cubicles. A few minutes into the massage I heard a reflex panicked whispered shriek from the other room and the girl I was with quickly jumped to her feet. Luckily I was all zipped up because just then 2 plain clothes policemen entered my room with a digital camera. I sort of freaked out but didn’t quite know what was going on. They didn’t use the camera. The men left my room and appeared to leave the whole establishment quite soon after. I can’t remember if the girl continued the massage or if I left but a few weeks later the place had been closed down.

Last week a similar more extreme experience happened. I discovered a new street where there were many BBS places, all looking promising. I tried one that appeared to have the most girls in it and as soon as I entered I saw the most gorgeous girl and choose her. She was only 18, very pretty and an amazing body. She took me to a backroom but the place was quite small. She drew a curtain over my booth and then barred the door shut with another chair. I offered 200rmb for FS and she accepted no problem. I proceeded to have an excellent session with this girl. Although the surroundings were not the best, she was quite adorable and very sexy. After we finished I contemplated getting her number and asking whether she would do out calls but ended up leaving thinking I could come back another time for that. I also gave her 250rmb which she seemed genuinely very happy about.

Well the next night I got to thinking about this girl again. Such an amazing pretty Chinese specimen hidden in the backstreets for only 200rmb! I had to go back. I had to have this girl again.

The next night was different though. It felt different as I left my house to go there, I had a strange guilt come over me for going back two nights in a row…or that I should even be doing this in the first place. When I arrived at the road I also felt something strange… some of the BBS places that had been open the night before were shut. I didn’t think much of this as the others were open. I also noticed an unmarked police car with its lights on slowly driving down the street. But in china this is a common sight.

I discreetly entered the same place as the night before and my girl was there, as happy to see me as I was to see her. We went back into the same room, a de ja vu of the night before. I was a little more relaxed in her company this night and so I was in no rush. We made some small talk in the limited Chinese I know and we both began fondling each other through the clothes. I just started to stroke her silky thigh, wrapped in a denim mini skirt, and was beginning to get hot.

I heard a familiar instant frantic panic whisper and in walked 2 plain clothes policemen. They sort of looked at me and I just lay there, thanking my lucky stars I hadn’t been caught in any of the positions I was in the night before. Can you imagine it? The girl left the room and I waited a while… thinking it would be a repeat of last years experience. Then some men came back for me and asked me to sit in the waiting lounge where the girls and owners were…all looking quite worried. The police asked me for my passport and by this seforum.xxxe I noticed there were about a 6-8 plain clothes police around, half inside the waiting area and half outside on the street. Two of them had digital camera’s and they all looked very serious and quite intimidating. Now I usually don’t find many Chinese men intimidating but these guys were despite their casual beige slacks and slip on shoes attire. They are not like western cops, big and tough with muscles and guns – but their faces had forged wrinkles that told stories of undercover crime and action. They weren’t the happy ‘hello friend looka looka’ folk at the markets.

One younger policemen, who appeared to speak reasonable English, asked me some more questions like my passport, where I live etc. I answered that of course I don’t carry my passport around and very vaguely in relation to where I live ‘back over that way a bit’. I asked what was going on, who they were and could I go. He said I needed to wait and that they were police. I explained calmly I had not done anything wrong and that I didn’t want any trouble, that I have a job here and do good work for china. It seemed to work and he calmed me down saying don’t worry, I must wait here for more senior officials, that he had to follow a process.

Well I was getting pretty shit scared by this seforum.xxxe. I knew I had done nothing technically wrong but I had no idea of Chinese police protocol and started imagining horrifying thoughts of where this could all lead, visioning myself in a long interrogation, my house raided where they would discover my weed and ultimately deport me out of the country with my tail between my legs.

The girl I was originally with looked quite worried as she was young and most of the other girls also looked scared. We occasionally glanced and I almost got the impression she looked sad she had got me into this situation. Strangely I noticed another girl there I had not seen who was also cute at this moment and despite my gut renching fear of what was potentially about to happen I remember thinking about how nice it would be to have both of these two girls at once. The owner looked liked he had been through this before and calmly watched a ming dynasty soap playing on a wall tv.

The senior officers arrived in a van outside and also wore plain clothes. One guy was obviously the leader and walked in speaking a dialect I couldn’t recognize as mandarin or shanghainese. The man looked exactly like a Vogon from hitch hikers guide to the galaxy. He wandered around inside briefly and then blurted out a few cynical words to the owner pointing his finger…perhaps they had crossed paths before. The Vogon and Zaphod Beeblebrox. I was poor Arthur Dent.

I tried to look calm as this intimidating man pranced around and felt happy he wasn’t giving me too much eye contact. I was hoping it was not me he was interested in. The leader left not long after arriving and the younger officer who I had spoken with said ‘lets go’. I still was pretty scared thinking ‘lets go’?...pondering it surely meant I was off to be interrogated or beaten into admission or subjected to Vogon poetry. But he calmly said ‘your free to go’ and I promptly walked off into the night like a silver fish let off a hook back into deep black water.

I walked by, practically in stealth mode, the BBS the following day again and it was shut down. All the BBS on the street, shut down. I felt slightly sad I couldn’t get hold of that girl again but over the moon I had escaped. Certainly not the worst thing to happen to me but the potential for it to have been much much worse ran through my mind. I have learnt a lesson and will be more careful in the future.

So the warning is be on the look out when hunting in shanghai because you never know where those plain clothes might be or where they want to crack down on next. I was real lucky – incredibly lucky both times I wasn’t caught in an embarrassing or illegal position. Check out the premises you intend to visit thoroughly and consider what would happen if an unwelcome cop came along at an unwelcome time. BBS are completely hit and miss but I have found some great girls there – If you find a nice girl or place ask for outcalls for a better chance in a better setting.

 

[WRATH OF THE FIST]

very nice description Tooparik! I've not been to China yet (in July) but when I was I will also contribute as good as possible!

 

[scooter]

I attach the last 5 pictures showing how to get there ...

By the way, some of the lower light pictures are *terrible*, and I apologize! They are horribly blurry due to camera movement, but I am new to digital cameras and this was my first experiment with a borrowed camera. Still, looking through the blurriness gives you some insight into how to get there. (It's how I occasionally see the world after a couple of beers anyway.) If I can I'll replace them with some more thoughtfully composed photos ..

 

[Positive Rodent]

I liked this place, not only for the great, quickie BBBJCIM experience but for the fact it sends you on a scavenger hunt to find it, walking down back alleys past dripping faucets, strange street smells, and scenes that are reminiscent of Harrison Ford's Bladerunner world. It is waaaay off the main street, buried in the bowels of neighborhood and up a flight of stairs. Funky. Other-wordly. Wouldn't have missed it for the world and I commend it to others.

My contribution to the forum is the perfection of walking instructions and I have posted my JPGs of "approach shots" so that you'll get there straightaway. Although I visited there first at night, in fog and light rain, I later came back in bright daylight to get these shots.

Start with the 2005 Shanghai Tourist map, available at every hotel concierge desk. Find coordinate sector J6 (see JPG scan below), and go to the very lower left corner to locate the intersection of Hefei Rd (which travels east-west) and Huangpi Rd (north-south). The Factory is found about 80 meters south of the intersection on the west side of the road, down an alley, 'round a corner, down another alley, up a flight of stairs .. and there you are. Other posters list a street address of 688-691, but I found those numbers utterly useless. Follow these instructions and you'll get there perfectly without numbers that don't seem to be even posted anywhere.

A typical walking approach might have you starting from Central Huaihai Road to Huangpi Road, and turn south. Five blocks later you're at the cross street of Hefei Road. Stay on the right side (west side) of Huangpi as you're walking and note the big blue-and-white Shanghai Glass Company building. Just beyond that, on its south side, is an alley way with perhaps a truck or car parked there, and immediately beyond that is the covered alleyway that starts your journey into Bladerunner world. There are the strings of lights described by others. Walk to the end of this first alley and DO NOT go up the first set of stairs to your right; they are NOT part of the Factory entrance. Instead snake left a little and about 5 meters later the covered alley takes a left 90 degree turn and continues for another 25 meters to a stairway. And THIS stairway is one you walk up. (Other posters described a turnstile in here, but as you can see from the JPGs I found no such thing. It might have been removed for repairs but for my experience it was an unimpeded walk.)

At the top of the stairs you'll see a window facing you; this is so their young male guard-boy can monitor who's approaching. No worries. At the landing at the top of the stairs pivot left, step through the door, pivot right and you're inside their foyer.

To your right will be a desk where the guard-boy sits listlessly watching a Chinese soap opera. (He didn't look like much of an intimidating presence or capable of warding off more than an angry housewife, but what the hell? I've underestimated small Chinese men before [!] and he seemed to be company for the girls off duty.) The condition of the building and fixtures can only be described as decrepit! If you're looking for the European brothel opulence experience this isn't it! Much of the peeling floor linoleum had been torn off, revealing the shabby plywood subfloor beneath. The couch was torn, tilting, and fit for a landfill. The whole building cried out for general demolition. But as I said, when you decide to enter Bladerunner world you'll find a certain charm in the fact it may be decrepit, but it seems to have been scrubbed about as much as humanly possible.

The foyer is no more than 7 meters by 9 meters; at your 11 o'clock position is a worn couch for waiting; and at your left is an open door to a hallway. No need to wait: just nod to the guard-boy, walk to the left through the door to the hallway (which goes left and right), pivot right and 2 meters later you're standing in the girls' waiting area. For reference, if you're standing in the doorway of their waiting area, directly behind you is the hallway which leads back to their cubicle "factory" floor.

I spoke no Chinese and none of the girls spoke any English. There were just 3 girls but they were dressed in lingerie teddies and were probably 18 or 19 years old. They wore pleasant, non-slutty makeup -- which was a surprise. They were surprisingly pretty: I'd say a 6, 8, and 9. Smiling is all that was necessary to establish my bona fides and I gestured to the "9". To make sure we were agreeing on the right thing she held her right hand in front of her sternum, opened her mouth slightly and pointed to it with her in index finger to confirm the Factory does only BJ and not FS. I nodded and smiled, she stepped forward and took my hand and pulled me back down the hallway about 10 meters, then a right turn and another 5 meters, getting darker all the time, then another right turn into a VERY dark cubicle area. (If you need a better description you'll have to rely on others much younger whose night vision adapts more quickly than a man in his 60s!)

I perceived that there were many cubicles in the darkness: perhaps as many as 10 or 12. She lead me to one. I had to feel around that it was a softly padded lounge chair. She left and returned with an ashtray, some some small towel baby-wipes, and a glass of warm water. She kept cooing things in a soothing Chinese, and although I didn't know the words I could feel their meaning. She pulled down my pants, cleaned my cock and balls, cleaned the fingers of my right hand, and patted me on the chest. Then she pulled down her panties, slipped her bra off, and went to work.

Alright, it was a "factory" job. Immediately, intensesly fast. Not what I (or any other male) really likes, but what I contracted for. She made a lot of mechanical sucking noises and groans. I was able to feel her ass and pussy, and then her tits. Her tits were perfect and they wer what pushed me over the edge. I told her to slow down -- and we exchanged some incomprehensible expressions but she figured out from the speed of my words, and me from her gestures, that the price was going up a little. And back to work she went and all in all the cum was a good one. She definitely "held on" for at least :20 seconds afterwards.

Then she noisily spit into the ashtray -- which has GOT to be a Chinese thing -- and set about cleaning me up, gently and a nice part of the experience. I caught my breath for perhaps :03 minutes and was not rushed, although that might have been an age-deferrence thing with her and because no one else was waiting. When I was ready I got up, peeled off 200 RMB and handed them to her. She pointed to a third 100 RMB note and pouted, but I declined and that was that. Previous posters suggested the rate for those capable of negotiating in Chinese is 130 RMB for locals, 150 RMB often times, and 170 RMB for some foreigners, and an unspecified increase in the fee if you wanted to go slow and take your time; so at 200 RMB I didn't feel taken advaneforum.xxxe of. She lead me out to the couch, chattered something that was certainly a pleasant good-bye, and I was done. Down the stairs, out the alleys, and back on the street. I did not get a business card to scan and post because .. I did not think of it. If anyone else visits and can find such a card it might be a valuable addition to the shared knowledge of this forum.



One last thought. If you're visiting in daylight and you'd like a beer or soft-drink, you might want to know that there's a convenience mart about 100 meters south of the Factory on the right hand (west) side of Huangpi Lu. I stopped in there first, bought a large Coke for 2.5 RMB, and recharged and rehydrated before heading in. They have beer, too.

Hope this helps, and if there's anything else I might have missed that you'd find helpful please post and I'll try to get back to you. If I can just arrange more frequent consulting work in Shanghai, I'll even try to do more "research" for you.

See the next post for the second series of 5 JPGs, too, which when taken together layout how you get there. Note that on the first JPG (map) I erroneously describe the location in the legend as being on the right side of the map sector, when it is obviously on the LEFT side of the sector. So maybe I'll correct that error the next time I go, too

 

[Pompal 09.]

Having heard much about the ZY Bar I decided to investigate. I apologize for the lameness factor but perhaps there's some small kernel of valuable information to someone out there ...

I started out by taking a taxi to Beijing Lu and Jiaozho Lu intersection, which is actually one block south of the proper intersection of Beijing and Xinzha Lu but the concierge and I decided that the taxi driver had a better probability of getting me there than missing the "real" intersection through misunderstanding; after all, Beijing Lu is a major thoroughfare. The cab ride cost 11 RMB plus a small tip, and would have been under 20 RMB no matter where you started from in Puxi. For my concierge-written instructions in Chinese to the Beijing/Jiaozho intersection see JPG1. On the 2005 Shanghai Tourist Map find sector F5; see JPG2 for a scan of that general area.

I immediately encountered a foolish problem: I did not know which way was north! The weather was low and rainy and I resolved the issue by walking the wrong way first, discovering the error, reversing course and finding north by trial and error. Next time I'll carry a small compass as part of my kit.

Walking one block north to Xianzha Lu and just before the intersection you may notice a BBS with rotating barber sign (also holding the pictures of several enticing women) and several women lounging inside. I didn't check it out further. Advancing another 10 meters I turned the corner to the right (walking now east) and 30 meters down on the right hand (south) side of the street was the ZY bar. A lighted yellow sign about 1 meter tall and 1.5 meters wide clearly identifies "ZY". Stepping up to the door and looking inside it appears to have a small but otherwise conventional bar inside. All in all, very easy to find.

I entered and could see 4 or 5 girls lounging in the back. One girl approached me with typical SW enthusiasm and I asked for a beer. She spoke no English (except the word beer) and I spoke no Chinese beyond "ne hao", so after getting through that minor awkwardness but with lots of smiles and a few giggles I took my beer and sat to wait the arrival of the mamasan. Which didn't take long.

Mamasan first asked if we were "friends" -- and she was all smilely but insistent, as though she would not let me go further until I identified myself as such. I got the feeling that she thought I might be part of the Morals Police or something. So I nodded and said, "Yes, friends! Friends! Good friend!" and that seemed to be enough for her and she clapped her hands and repeated, "Yes, friend! Good friend!" This was all it took to reach a complete agreement. The girl next to me was patting my back and gestured that she would show me to the back room. This was a doorway right behind the last bar stool, which we stepped up a little to cross the threshold and immediately turned left to walk a narrow aisle. It was very dark and my eyes had not adjusted but it appeared that were 4 cubicles, each with a small table and a fat, comfortable padded chair.

By Shanghai bar standards the place was "clean" -- decrepit, old, broken, and recycled but someone had scrubbed it all as well as could be hoped. I've certainly been in places that smelled worse. If it had been Chicago, for instance, I doubt that I would have lingered to even finish my beer, but Shanghai? They have different standards and that's okay by me.

The mamasan was quick to make sure I knew, in English, "one beer, one girl, 350 RMB -- okay?" I nodded over my shoulder and kept walking back to the cubicle. The girl lead me by the hand and helped me find the chair in the dark. Sitting down, she left and returned a minute later with a small dish, a glass of [warm] water, and some some baby-wipes. She helped me pull my pants down, indicated I should lie back and relax and started a slow blowjob. She took her time. She did not just suck but put on a small show. Periodic shaft licking, ball licking, deepthroating and of course the necessary sucking and up-and-down to get me off. It was .. not bad. Her technique was practiced and good. I came, she "held on" for an extra :20 seconds, and then she silently spit into her disk, filled her mouth with warm water, and went down on me again to clean me. I lost track of what happened for a few seconds -- and isn't it always like that? -- but she left, returned, cuddled for about :03 to :05 minutes before I felt like standing, and that's all that I have to say about that.

If you're in Shanghai I'd consider this a nice quickie for a BBBJCIM, like hitting a fast food joint when you're starving and haven't much time. Convenient, maybe necessary, but not your everyday meal.

The girls were pleasant but probably 5s or 6s, and their dress was not especially sexy. Were I their manager I'd change that, but it's acceptable as is.

Hope this helps. By the way, I'm in my 60s now and probably a lot older than most of you so if I missed any details essential to the younger crowd be sure to point out these errors and omissions and I'll try to get it straight in a later post.

 

[Ontario Loyalist]

has anyone been to 'count club' ktv bar near or on jiangou lu (?) - saw some v cute girls going to work there on saturday evening or any other shanghai ktv that has nice girls and FS?

 

[Pompal 09.]

agreed. ive never paid more than 100 for massage and HJ ,usually 50, and the local rate for FS is 200 and thats probably average. but sometimes i cant get price below 500 even with good haggling if anyone has other barber shop addresses that offer FS id be interested!

 

[Goligoski]

Here some more info on Shanghai's many opprotunities. I believe these prices quoted in the first paragraph are too high. I have had bj for as little as 130 and f/s for as little as 200. Don't over pay as this drives the prices up for everyone. Always negotiate to the lowest price and walk if thier price is too high.

The rule for Shanghai's ubiquitous beauty salons is this: the farther away they are from the city center, the more likely the possibility they offer more than just a shave and a haircut. There are COUNTLESS barber shops and beauty salons throughout the city where you can get a massage and a hand job for as little as 100 RMB and, if you're lucky, a blowjob for around 300RMB and sex for about 500RMB.

These beauty salons are usually owned and managed/operated by a Shanghainese woman or couple. They hire a couple of girls from Wen Zhou, Fu Jian or some other backwater place to work there. These girls are usually not beautiful in the conventional sense, but since they come in literally all shapes, sizes, personalities, styles and flavors, you're bound to find one that turns you on.

When you enter, ask if they "Qiao Bei" (lit."knock/strike/beat the back"), or give massages. If the answer is yes, they'll either ask you to sit in the barber's chair or to go into a back room or partitioned space with a bed. If they ask you to sit, persist a bit and request the full-body, lay-down massage. If they resist further give up and try another place.

Once in the back room or partitioned area, ask the price. It should be around 50 or 60 RMB. That's the "tai fei", or fee just to get on the table. On top of that you're expected to give a tip. 100 RMB, all inclusive, for a massage and a handjob is ENOUGH. Pay them AFTER they finish the job, not before. If they bitch and moan that 100 isn't enough, tell them to "jiao yi ge peng you" (make a friend) and that you'll come back again and again if they accomodate you this time. 9 out of 10 times they buy it.

 

[congaihieuki]

Hi,
for BJ and FS there you go with a taxi to Shuzou Hotel. That is the happening road there. Many small bars with girls to take out or upstairs.
If you stay in Sheraton, there is massage around the corner (out right, right, left side after 100m) and weekend massage take out of the health center (unofficial).
good hunting,
Mike

 

[Ryan was born may 20th]

Do any of you know if there are similar BJ or FS places in Suzhou?

 

[Akuwa]

there are no major land marks near it. get a map or ask taxi driver to take u to corner of damuqiao lu and qingzhen lu. walk about 100m south down qingzhen lu and on the right hand side just after a big hairdresser there are 2 massage places that both offer fs. there are a few other massage places further along the street but i havent tried them.

 

[LuYengpo]

Hi,
My office is in Pudong Avenue and when you pass the Novotel, there are a number of barber shops where ypu get full service for Rmb 300. It is not a five start plcae, but some of the shops have nice-looking girls.

 

[Awesome Uber]

White Dragon,

You need to provide some landmarks to locate your place like hotel name, parks and/or railway station name in addition to main road names. Some of us are not so familar with Shanghai.

 

[Pompal 09.]

sorry the street is qingzhen lu not zhenqing lu

 

[Rock Or Something]

also try massage parlours along zhenqing lu (north part of street x road damuxiao lu (sp?)) parrallel to zhoujiabang lu in puxi, they offer full service. girls a lucky dip but some cute ones. prices 300-500rmb for FS - add 100 if u want to take girl away (hotel house). these places are open now - i have a bunch of mobile numbers of good girls ive met in this street and they will provide better independant service if u get to know them this way. if u meet a nice girl - get her number for next time or in case place closes down. one girl i met introduced me later to her cute friends who also work. they were happy to do independant business away from the massage parlour. taking away 2 girls is also no problem at the places i visited on this street