Chat YMMV TIPS & SUGGESTIONS

[Darke Steele]

If I ever find myself with huge piles of money I might try being a whale for a day as an experiment. But I would soon be disillusioned. This old fool wants to feel like SWs actually like me.

Don't waste ur money. Stick with the ones that like you. It's much more satisfying.

 

[snoopdoggie]

YMMV

Alright so there's been a lot of banter lately about YMMV. So i figured why not make a post. Some people get a lot, some people get next to nothing. Here's my tips over the years that have got me extra mileage. A lot of which I did not ask for as it happened organically. Either by me going in instigating the action or the mpa just doing it.

1) BE IN SHAPE

Guys, there's no excuse for being fat and out of shape. I've said this a million times on here. Being in great shape gets you extra play all day everyday. I would go as far to say that 90% of the time an mpa is shocked when my shirt comes off. It's like she's never seen a well sculpted body before. I'm talking eyes popping out of her head. This tells me that the majority of the guys going into spas are not in shape. I'm a little older now but i train a lot. It's part of my daily regime. It should part of yours too, not just for this hobby but for life in general. If you guys lack motivation, or need an extra push. Workout with a friend or hire a trainer. I've always been a gym rat since i was young. In my case now, i have this young lad who works for me. He is in insane shape as he workouts like crazy. We train together and push each other every time at the gym.

Let's be honest, no guy wants a fat lard ass mpa. In retrospect no mpa wants a fat lard ass mandem. That's just fkn gross all around. There's a lot of things we can't control, like our height, aging etc but you can control your weight. Having a fit body is the ultimate sign of self respect.

2) HYGIENE

Yes, fkn hygiene. When you guys go to a spa, shower right before you go. I'm talking right before, like shower and head straight to the spa right after. I don't like to shower at spas before a session. The reason for this is that, I don't like their cheap ass soap. A lot of the spas don't even have body lotion for crying out loud. So i use the quality stuff i have at home before i head out. I only shower after sessions at the spa and even then the idea of how many people being in there just fkn grosses me the fk out.

Brush your mother fkn teeth before a session. Holy fk, i can't even believe i have to say this one. You know how many girls i've spoken to over the years who have said so many guys they see have bad breath. Brush, , use mouth wash and chew a piece of gum on your way to the spa. I don't recommend flossing for those of you who like to go down on a chick for obvious reasons.

Spray a good cologne. None of this shoppers drug mart cheap ass shit. The good shit. This hobby is expensive so invest in a good cologne. I like creed aventus, baccarat rouge 540, and le labo te matcha just to name a few. Don't fkn over spray, two or three sprays max.

Groom yourself. If you're a hairy ass chewbacca mother fker get the manscape trimmer and get to work. You don't have to go zero guard. For those of you who have small dicks leave enough hair so your dick seems bigger. LOL!!!... but don't leave too much where the mpa has to go searching for moby.

For those of you who have been blessed with the monster anaconda a light trim will do.

Come well put together. I'm not saying shirt and tie type of shit. I'm just saying don't look fkn sloppy. The girls don't look sloppy so neither should you.

Most of these girls if not all ,are super clean and ready to go. You owe to them and yourself to be just as clean.

3) BE POLITE

I know these girls are sex workers and its easy to look at them like fkn hoes and treat them like one. If you want the gfe experience then treat them like one in the room. What i mean by this is be nice. Lead with your body slow and sensually. Build up to the experience you want. In a car you don't skp from 1st gear to 5th. So same applies here. If you go too fast and the mpa pulls back take it down a notch. You want the mpa to be comfortable with you. Build rapport with the mpa. The more comfortable she is with you, the more she will do.

4) TIP WELL

If the service is good tip well. If the session was basic then give the standard. Some of you guys are so fkn cheap. I'm not saying tip a ton, though some guys do. You'll' be surprised how much an extra 5,10 or 20 goes on top of market rate. This goes a long way and the girl will remember that on your next visit.

I remember one chick i got a bs from. I had 4 twenties and a 5 in my wallet. I figured wth might as well just give it to her. I gave it to her and her smile lit up like crazy. Like she was so fkn happy over 5 Fkn bucks. It felt good to do that gesture and see her reaction. Totally worth the 5 bucks.

5) GO EARLY

If your schedule allows, you go fkn early. The mpas have more energy for a better massage and are more enthusiastic earlier in the day. Avoid going at late hours if you can because near the end of the day they are just tired and waiting to go home.

One time i went to a spa at 7:30 to check one of the girls on my rotation. Yo she was tired AF!!!! She literally went through 11 guys. She kept yawning and her massage was lacking serious power. It was pure shiatsu soft bullshit. I came for deep tissue bitch..lol. Anyway I cut the bullshit massage short , we ended up naked, cuddling and making out. After 15 mins she passed out ...LOLOLOLOL! Dumb bitch..kidding!! She was exhausted. I mean i can't complain as it was serious dfk but i came for the massage. She said i didn't have to tip her. I still tried to give her $50 bucks for the half hour but she refused and said next time. I went to the boss after and told her i don't think it’s a good idea for these chicks to see that many guys. The boss bitch said sorry and gave me an extra bottle of water. .Like what the fk am i gonna do with 2 bottles of water bitch LOL!!!

The service just lacks after a certain number of guys the mpa goes through. I mean imagine an mpa wacking off 11 fkn dicks...wtf!!! Go early!!!

5) DO YOUR RESEARCH

There's a lot of information out there on who provides what. A lot of you guys may be looking for a great massage, a great tease, a fantastic body slide etc. Do the research and ask credible sources, watch out for the shills though. There's a ton of them on here.

If anyone would like to add suggestions or have stories to add regarding mileage pls reply. I would love to hear them.

Good tips. I can add a few more things.

Make sure your shoes are socks are fresh and clean. Sometimes when you take your shoes off, it can stink up a small massage room pretty fast. You can probably use a spray with a neutral scent like freebreez. A little bit of lysol disinfecting spray at home will kill the germs that cause the smell in your shoes.

I've always had good luck when I use Alfred Sung or Polo Sport. With these quality colognes, you don't need to spray on much, just a little because some people are allergic to fragrances.

Guys who have uncircumcised cocks, make sure you scrub under your foreskin before and after sex. Not only do you want your cock clean and fresh for a good Bbbj, but also to prevent her saliva and/or pussy fluid to dry on your cock. You can get an infection if you just leave that stuff on there for an extended period.

 

[Social-Misfit]

99% of busta-nut-rymes post is common fucking sense man, Jesus were ya raised on a farm?

 

[Bustanut]

99% of busta-nut-rymes post is common fucking sense man, Jesus were ya raised on a farm?

Let em know playa . Some barn animals don’t even wash their clothes before coming in. Haha! Thats the new intel coming from some of the mpas recently on my end.

 

[Social-Misfit]

Let em know playa . Some barn animals don’t even wash their clothes before coming in. Haha! Thats the new intel coming from some of the mpas recently on my end.

I've heard similar comments as well bro, and quite racist as well..lol.
I get why these women are moody, they must breathe a sigh relief when a nice dressed, nice smelling guy drops in. It's happened many times to me, from women who typically wouldn't because of bad experiences, take a whiff and dive right in.

 

[Bustanut]

I’ve done the last appointment of the day and drive home scenario. Let me put it this way, if she trusts you enough to let you drive her home, she trusts you enough to continue the fun at her place (in my experience), and the mileage has almost no limits. However, it’s a fine line between business and personal, sometimes taking things outside of the spa isn’t the best idea. The MPA can start getting attached etc which becomes awkward.

Brother, I couldn’t agree more. Though, I have yet to try the last appointment technique. If she is letting you drive her home that is an insane amount of trust. Like the mpa trusting you enough to know her home address is wild. I can only imagine what happens when you go inside her house for a midnight snack.

I do have experience dating some mpas in the past. It’s pure “aaa” awkward and attached mode, like you mentioned. So awkward because once you start seeing them a lot. Like having dinner and sleepover. It’s always on your mind. For me I was like ok ……so I just dfk, cim, cip. I really wonder if anyone else did that today???

Getting attached can happen on both ends. Fkn makes this sport crazy bro. Geezus one time you can be the bug a boo and the next time vice versa. I try not to let emotions get the best of me.

 

[Social-Misfit]

Brother, I couldn’t agree more. Though, I have yet to try the last appointment technique. If she is letting you drive her home that is an insane amount of trust. Like the mpa trusting you enough to know her home address is wild. I can only imagine what happens when you go inside her house for a midnight snack.

I do have experience dating some mpas in the past. It’s pure “aaa” awkward and attached mode, like you mentioned. So awkward because once you start seeing them a lot. Like having dinner and sleepover. It’s always on your mind. For me I was like ok ……so I just dfk, cim, cip. I really wonder if anyone else did that today???

Getting attached can happen on both ends. Fkn makes this sport crazy bro. Geezus one time you can be the bug a boo and the next time vice versa. I try not to let emotions get the best of me.

Maybe it's an age thing, dunno, but I turned that off years ago, for the reasons you guys mention here. I know it's a dead end, either soon or down the road, even if she got out da biz I'd never trust her, fuck I can't even trust myself in a relationship too many women come on to me, I'd never be faithful. Maybe when I'm 80..ha
Just my 2 cents

 

[Bustanut]

Maybe it's an age thing, dunno, but I turned that off years ago, for the reasons you guys mention here. I know it's a dead end, either soon or down the road, even if she got out da biz I'd never trust her, fuck I can't even trust myself in a relationship too many women come on to me, I'd never be faithful. Maybe when I'm 80..ha
Just my 2 cents

Touché brother, couldn’t agree more with you on that. No future as dead end as it gets. Fk man, even though it leads to a dead end. I still play that game with the same results each and every time. Which is me cutting it off, or me doing something purposefully for the girl to cut it off.

Then when it’s over. I Fkn start again at some point after with another spa chick I’ve seen several times. It’s addictive and I hate to be a dick but I do it because I can. At that point it’s getting play for free. Well not free but at the expense of your time. When the girl wants more of it which the majority of times they do. Time to out. I try not to date them anymore and just leave that where it belongs.

Kudos to you bro, for being able to keep those emotions in check. Some of us don’t have that discipline. Im guilty of falling off the grid with that one too some times. Especially when the sessions get extra steamy.

Also the key being what you brought up. TRUST! Fk man, can’t ever trust these girls. I have to beat that in my head constantly when dating these chicks. Especially when I’m feeling like I’m getting too close. Lord really know if I’m the only guy . I’ll tell you this though they ain’t the only one that’s for sure .



It’s just like getting bonus rounds for free and the engagement becomes a drug till you d

 

[VinnyBulbarino]

Brother, I couldn’t agree more. Though, I have yet to try the last appointment technique. If she is letting you drive her home that is an insane amount of trust. Like the mpa trusting you enough to know her home address is wild. I can only imagine what happens when you go inside her house for a midnight snack.

I do have experience dating some mpas in the past. It’s pure “aaa” awkward and attached mode, like you mentioned. So awkward because once you start seeing them a lot. Like having dinner and sleepover. It’s always on your mind. For me I was like ok ……so I just dfk, cim, cip. I really wonder if anyone else did that today???

Getting attached can happen on both ends. Fkn makes this sport crazy bro. Geezus one time you can be the bug a boo and the next time vice versa. I try not to let emotions get the best of me.

You nailed it Brother! There were times I give a ride home and nothing happens, she’s tired and wants to call it a night. Kiss good night and I’m on my way. More than anything, I’m glad she’s home safe. But then the “hey I’m off today if you want to come and visit…” text hits and then you know what’s going down. The trust is definitely up there, but it took more than a few visits to get to that point. If they’re the last one to lock up, sometimes having a male around makes them feel safer.

To date an MPA would be hard for me. My mind would always be wandering and my imagination would get the best of me, lol! I’ve fallen for an MPA or two in the past and it was hard to think about what they were doing with other guys. For MPA’s that have fallen for me, they get very jealous and will cut ties even if they hear rumors about your experiences from other MPA’s.

I’ve learned from all of this and try to also keep things as transactional as possible. But it can be a slippery slide (pun intended) when there’s genuine chemistry.

 

[Social-Misfit]

You nailed it Brother! There were times I give a ride home and nothing happens, she’s tired and wants to call it a night. Kiss good night and I’m on my way. More than anything, I’m glad she’s home safe. But then the “hey I’m off today if you want to come and visit…” text hits and then you know what’s going down. The trust is definitely up there, but it took more than a few visits to get to that point. If they’re the last one to lock up, sometimes having a male around makes them feel safer.

To date an MPA would be hard for me. My mind would always be wandering and my imagination would get the best of me, lol! I’ve fallen for an MPA or two in the past and it was hard to think about what they were doing with other guys. For MPA’s that have fallen for me, they get very jealous and will cut ties even if they hear rumors about your experiences from other MPA’s.

I’ve learned from all of this and try to also keep things as transactional as possible. But it can be a slippery slide (pun intended) when there’s genuine chemistry.

Vinster, stay away from those vaginas, they're no good for you...

 

[VinnyBulbarino]

Vinster, stay away from those vaginas, they're no good for you...

Al Pacino voice “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!!!”

 

[Bustanut]

You nailed it Brother! There were times I give a ride home and nothing happens, she’s tired and wants to call it a night. Kiss good night and I’m on my way. More than anything, I’m glad she’s home safe. But then the “hey I’m off today if you want to come and visit…” text hits and then you know what’s going down. The trust is definitely up there, but it took more than a few visits to get to that point. If they’re the last one to lock up, sometimes having a male around makes them feel safer.

To date an MPA would be hard for me. My mind would always be wandering and my imagination would get the best of me, lol! I’ve fallen for an MPA or two in the past and it was hard to think about what they were doing with other guys. For MPA’s that have fallen for me, they get very jealous and will cut ties even if they hear rumors about your experiences from other MPA’s.

I’ve learned from all of this and try to also keep things as transactional as possible. But it can be a slippery slide (pun intended) when there’s genuine chemistry.

Respect brother .

Damn, look at you mr distinguished gentleman . “More than anything, I’m glad she’s home safe” That’s legit brother, most guys would be like “more than anything, I hope I get my dick sucked” .

Its seems like you, social and I have the same game. Who knows maybe we’ve already blessed the same chicks lol.

That jealousy kicks in big time brother. Especially when they get on their wechat and start letting their friends know. Fakkk!!!! I use to take pictures with these ladies as a trophy in my phone. Nowadays, I don’t even bother.

Genuine chemistry is hard to beat. I guess that’s why we all continue to do what we do when it’s there? Haha!!!!!

 

[Bustanut]

Good tips. I can add a few more things.

Make sure your shoes are socks are fresh and clean. Sometimes when you take your shoes off, it can stink up a small massage room pretty fast. You can probably use a spray with a neutral scent like freebreez. A little bit of lysol disinfecting spray at home will kill the germs that cause the smell in your shoes.

I've always had good luck when I use Alfred Sung or Polo Sport. With these quality colognes, you don't need to spray on much, just a little because some people are allergic to fragrances.

Guys who have uncircumcised cocks, make sure you scrub under your foreskin before and after sex. Not only do you want your cock clean and fresh for a good Bbbj, but also to prevent her saliva and/or pussy fluid to dry on your cock. You can get an infection if you just leave that stuff on there for an extended period.

Good contribution brother. Some of these fools need to spray 10x what they think is actually a good amount. Not the cologne but the disinfectant spray .

I personally never use the same garments twice in a row unless fully washed . Some of these fools on here who wear the same shit over and over are the ones who end up stinking up the joint.

 

[Bustanut]

You're correct first appointment is best at FS spas. At semi. last appointment is best. I always ask for SF2 if I know she slides with everyone. No in room shower spas where girls never take shower after slides are a no go for me.

Not sure if I mentioned this already but….one time I got a chick I’ve never seen before. Right before the slide was about to go down, she started spaying alcohol on a tissue and then proceeded to wipe her snatch and ass crack. the fk????

I guess, I should be happy she didn’t show any signs of a burning session on her face when she wiped her snatch??? Needless to say, i jumped in the shower with her and schooled her on the importance of cleaning. Dumb bitch!!! lol. I ain’t no rookie .

 

[krayjee]

Brother, I couldn’t agree more. Though, I have yet to try the last appointment technique. If she is letting you drive her home that is an insane amount of trust. Like the mpa trusting you enough to know her home address is wild. I can only imagine what happens when you go inside her house for a midnight snack.

I do have experience dating some mpas in the past. It’s pure “aaa” awkward and attached mode, like you mentioned. So awkward because once you start seeing them a lot. Like having dinner and sleepover. It’s always on your mind. For me I was like ok ……so I just dfk, cim, cip. I really wonder if anyone else did that today???

Getting attached can happen on both ends. Fkn makes this sport crazy bro. Geezus one time you can be the bug a boo and the next time vice versa. I try not to let emotions get the best of me.

Getting attached is the worst thing you can have in this hobby. It never ends well and both got hurt. You can get attached easily if you let her sleep over at your place because you feel so hollow the next day. The best way not to get attached is seeing or dating 2-3 girls at the same time and making sure you have another shoulder ready to cry on. If I sense the lady is starting to get attached to me, I pulled myself away slowly so not to hurt anyone. I always tell them you are my one hour girlfriend only. .I have one in my hand now starting to get attached to me and talking about moving in with me and sending messages very early in the morning as soon as she woke up. I tried not to answer pretending I was still sleeping. I am a bit worried about her getting so attached to me and getting hurt. It's a very dangerous game we love to play.

 

[VinnyBulbarino]

Respect brother .

Damn, look at you mr distinguished gentleman . “More than anything, I’m glad she’s home safe” That’s legit brother, most guys would be like “more than anything, I hope I get my dick sucked” .

Its seems like you, social and I have the same game. Who knows maybe we’ve already blessed the same chicks lol.

That jealousy kicks in big time brother. Especially when they get on their wechat and start letting their friends know. Fakkk!!!! I use to take pictures with these ladies as a trophy in my phone. Nowadays, I don’t even bother.

Genuine chemistry is hard to beat. I guess that’s why we all continue to do what we do when it’s there? Haha!!!!!

Like we’ve all been saying in the thread, we’re all human and we all deserve to be treated with respect. A job doesn’t define who we are. Everyone gets the same respect, unless the person gives me a reason otherwise…

Haha, you never know, maybe the three of us have unintentionally crossed paths, haha!

That chemistry is what takes a session from good to great. It’s nice to find someone who you genuinely connect with (and you know it’s not just about the money you’re spending). But like KJ said, it’s a dangerous game to get attached.

 

[Bustanut]

It's still a bit of a device to say it's always the guys fault. Lots of factors and the biggest being big picture for their business. I feel it's not bad to be a bit cynical in these circumstances. I do believe be at your best and always nice.

Bro, trust me. These girls gotta take some accountability dawg. Especially when the clues are given.

Like, I’m not about bush gardens down south. I know several ppl on here are guilty of liking the hairy larry on the girl’s couchie. perhaps some people like to floss while eating down there?

This one girl was so hot with a good massage but never bothered to wack the weed out of the clam. It’s because she was so hot and gave a good massage I continued to see her. However, like every man I do have my limits.

Couldn’t take seeing that bush anymore. Fk man, for Christmas I gave her Gillette the best a man can get mach3 sensitive starter pack. So I gave it to her she unwrapped it smiling. She probably thought it was chocolate. She did that fob thing where the girls put their hands over their mouth when they laugh. She playfully put the package to her arms like to pretend shave. I playfully took it and brought it down to her coochie . Then she gave me a confused look. Seen her one more time after that. She didn’t take the hint so I cut her out of the rotation.

 

[Bustanut]

Getting attached is the worst thing you can have in this hobby. It never ends well and both got hurt. You can get attached easily if you let her sleep over at your place because you feel so hollow the next day. The best way not to get attached is seeing or dating 2-3 girls at the same time and making sure you have another shoulder ready to cry on. If I sense the lady is starting to get attached to me, I pulled myself away slowly so not to hurt anyone. I always tell them you are my one hour girlfriend only. .I have one in my hand now starting to get attached to me and talking about moving in with me and sending messages very early in the morning as soon as she woke up. I tried not to answer pretending I was still sleeping. I am a bit worried about her getting so attached to me and getting hurt. It's a very dangerous game we love to play.

You’re absolutely correct brother and you have the most experience out of everyone. Words or wisdom no doubt. That feeling of euphoria taking over physically and mentally is a Fkn drug though. I love the sleep overs because it takes me to dreamville. However, when I wake up and she has to go to work. That’s when it gets iffy. Like mental mind fk at its best. You almost gotta pretend they don’t do what they do when they come back to you. The juggling girls on the side as a distraction is a good move. I do find when shuffling girls around. You always have a stronger connection with that one. No matter what you do, that laugh, hug, kiss etc is way more potent than it is with the other girls.

It is what it is, double edge sword at its finest.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Some mpa have bad breath I can say that, on that subject, I like to ask for mouthwash when I am there even though I did before I left the house, its a good look. I sometimes get offered it after too. Hmmm did my tongue get lost along the way?

 

[startbeforeIfinish]

Bro, trust me. These girls gotta take some accountability dawg. Especially when the clues are given.

Like, I’m not about bush gardens down south. I know several ppl on here are guilty of liking the hairy larry on the girl’s couchie. perhaps some people like to floss while eating down there?

This one girl was so hot with a good massage but never bothered to wack the weed out of the clam. It’s because she was so hot and gave a good massage I continued to see her. However, like every man I do have my limits.

Couldn’t take seeing that bush anymore. Fk man, for Christmas I gave her Gillette the best a man can get mach3 sensitive starter pack. So I gave it to her she unwrapped it smiling. She probably thought it was chocolate. She did that fob thing where the girls put their hands over their mouth when they laugh. She playfully put the package to her arms like to pretend shave. I playfully took it and brought it down to her coochie . Then she gave me a confused look. Seen her one more time after that. She didn’t take the hint so I cut her out of the rotation.

I've done similar things with Lush Soap. Don't think she needed to be a good egg. All gone.