I was never trying to convince Ouch.
I was only trying to give my own viewpoint for others who may read in the future.
Can you imagine if it was only Ouch speaking and no one arguing against him? Many many many MTs and student MTs read this board. I want all of them to hear my viewpoint, and all other viewpoints.
I wish Ouch had not erased his post because I think it deserves to be here. Along with my posts and everyone else's posts as well.