Opinion What should the consequences for the Trump administration be if COVID-19 deaths in the US exceed one million

Punishment for the Trump administration if COVID-19 deaths in the US exceed one million

  • # 1 Nothing.

    Votes: 11 44.0%
  • # 2 Trump and each member of his administration should be sued into destitution.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • # 3 Put them all in jail for the rest of their lives. Keep them safe, but no special privileges.

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • #4 Hang them all from lampposts in Washington DC.

    Votes: 7 28.0%

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The original question was what will happen if the number of deaths reaches one million in United States.

My answer to that starts with another question; will it reach one million?

Probably not. 7 months into this pandemic, we have 137,000 deaths in United States. The virus will certainly slow down before it gets anywhere near one million.

And, who is Joe Biden's running mate going to be? Because the VP candidate will probably have a better chance of ousting Trump than Biden himself. Nothing personal against Biden. But I don't think a person who has nearly died from a brain aneurysm has the physical capacity to take on the pressures of the presidency of the largest power of the world.
Biden will most likely select a black woman as VP. If not black, the VP will still be a woman. Itโ€™ll help steal the woman vote and black vote. Biden will be a one-term President due in large part to his age and he can step aside for that VP to run in 2024. Biden didnโ€™t want to run in 2016. I think he feels a sense of duty to put the train back on the rails then hand it off.
 
Biden will most likely select a black woman as VP. If not black, the VP will still be a woman. Itโ€™ll help steal the woman vote and black vote. Biden will be a one-term President due in large part to his age and he can step aside for that VP to run in 2024. Biden didnโ€™t want to run in 2016. I think he feels a sense of duty to put the train back on the rails then hand it off.


old white guy is what many former Donald voters want....at this stage they will take any Joe over boy buffoon
 
Biden will most likely select a black woman as VP. If not black, the VP will still be a woman. Itโ€™ll help steal the woman vote and black vote. Biden will be a one-term President due in large part to his age and he can step aside for that VP to run in 2024. Biden didnโ€™t want to run in 2016. I think he feels a sense of duty to put the train back on the rails then hand it off.
Who might that black woman be? Condelissa Rice? And why did Hilary decide not to give it another shot? It would have been a most entertaining rematch.
 
Who might that black woman be? Condelissa Rice? And why did Hilary decide not to give it another shot? It would have been a most entertaining rematch.

Kamala Harris, Val Demmings, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Susan Rice, Tammy Duckworth.

Hilary saw the writing on the wall that no one likes her. If she ran, it might be 4 more years of Trump. Better to step aside than let that happen.
 
Kamala Harris, Val Demmings, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Susan Rice, Tammy Duckworth.

Hilary saw the writing on the wall that no one likes her. If she ran, it might be 4 more years of Trump. Better to step aside than let that happen.

Among the choices the only important attribute is who is the most likable....Kamala probably wins
 
Kamala Harris, Val Demmings, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Susan Rice, Tammy Duckworth.

Hilary saw the writing on the wall that no one likes her. If she ran, it might be 4 more years of Trump. Better to step aside than let that happen.
Well, I wouldn't say nobody likes her. All the polls, 4 years ago, said she would have beaten Trump easily.

Is Susan Rice related to Condelissa?
 
Well, I wouldn't say nobody likes her. All the polls, 4 years ago, said she would have beaten Trump easily.

Is Susan Rice related to Condelissa?
Not related. Polls only go so far as the electoral college decides so the Dems need to win those swing states and Hillary couldnโ€™t pull that off.
 
Well, I wouldn't say nobody likes her. All the polls, 4 years ago, said she would have beaten Trump easily.
There may be some monkey business in the election (not enough places to vote, an October surprise, some kind of emergency, rigged voting machines, etc). The Democrats need to win with a significant edge. Biden can do that if he picks the right running mate. I think Susan Rice would be the best choice - highly accomplished, very intelligent, non controversial and as far as I know she has no baggage, unlike Kamala Harris. At the very least she would not be feared or disliked in the swing states. Elizabeth Warren knows how to appeal to conservative people so do not count her out either.
 
I do not think the pandemic will go away without serious effort. As for the issues being raised by BLM, sadly there is a long history of slow progress. Margaret Thatcher once said that Americans always end up doing the right thing - after doing all the wrong things first.

She would know, I guess.
 
While Canada, Asia, Europe and parts of the Middle East are making headway with containing the Corona COVID-19 pandemic the situation in the United States is steadily getting worse in most of the states. There is a lot of denial, but if deaths from the pandemic in the U.S. exceed one million Trump and his administration will not be able to escape culpability. If things get that bad what should happen to Trump and his cronies? Please scroll up to answer this survey.
There are about 140,000 deaths in the US now (which I think is massively overstated). No way they are getting close to 1,000,000 deaths from covid19.
 
There are about 140,000 deaths in the US now (which I think is massively overstated). No way they are getting close to 1,000,000 deaths from covid19.
I hope you are right. Here is a back of the envelope calculation - 5% death rate, 50,000 infections a day means they would get to a million deaths in 344 days if infections/deaths continue at the same rate. Another calculation is if no containment measures are made resulting in 50% of the US eventually getting infected, with a 5% death rate the death number becomes about 8 million. I think at some point all the decision makers will get serious and this will be curtailed, or a viable vaccine will become available. Note the first calculation assumes linear progression, whereas uncontrolled spread is exponential, so things could get much worse.
 
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I hope you are right. Here is a back of the envelope calculation - 5% death rate, 50,000 infections a day means they would get to a million deaths in 344 days if infections/deaths continue at the same rate. Another calculation is if no containment measures are made resulting in 50% of the US eventually getting infected, with a 5% death rate the death number becomes about 8 million. I think at some point all the decision makers will get serious and this will be curtailed, or a viable vaccine will become available. Note the first calculation assumes linear progression, whereas uncontrolled spread is exponential, so things could get much worse.
The death rate is not 5%. It's currently at 3.8% and falling by the day. I've heard estimates that it will end up at about 0.5% of all cases when all is said and done. The reason why we are seeing so many cases is due to the massive increases in testing. Anyone getting surgery in a hospital is automatically tested for instance.
Also, baked into the 140,000 deaths number are an estimated 50,000 deaths due to other causes - cancer, heart disease, common flu. Still not taking away from the seriousness of this virus, it's a nasty SOB to anyone who is elderly or to someone who has pre-existing health conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure or an auto immune deficiency. It is imperative that we due everything to keep these most vulnerable as safe as possible.

My estimate of deaths (after revisions) will fall somewhere in the 100,000-200,000 range which was the last CDC estimate back in late April/early May.
 
The death rate is not 5%. It's currently at 3.8% and falling by the day. I've heard estimates that it will end up at about 0.5% of all cases when all is said and done. The reason why we are seeing so many cases is due to the massive increases in testing. Anyone getting surgery in a hospital is automatically tested for instance.
Also, baked into the 140,000 deaths number are an estimated 50,000 deaths due to other causes - cancer, heart disease, common flu. Still not taking away from the seriousness of this virus, it's a nasty SOB to anyone who is elderly or to someone who has pre-existing health conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure or an auto immune deficiency. It is imperative that we due everything to keep these most vulnerable as safe as possible.

My estimate of deaths (after revisions) will fall somewhere in the 100,000-200,000 range which was the last CDC estimate back in late April/early May.
I hope you are correct. Would you agree that if deaths exceed one million there should be consequences for the decision makers? What number would you choose?
 
But I don't think a person who has nearly died from a brain aneurysm has the physical capacity to take on the pressures of the presidency of the largest power of the world.

Biden could be a vegetable, in a wheelchair , with no ability to speak,
and he would still be 10x the leader that Trump ever was.

I donโ€™t blame the Don though, heโ€™s just a product of his upbringing and privileged life, itโ€™s all those spineless Republicans too afraid to speak up. They could of ended the insanity in the first year, but didnโ€™t.

Inject sunlight or disinfectant into your body? He was fuckin serious!

Having his cute blonde press secretary try to defend him everyday to the press? Sheโ€™s the highest paid whore that he has, getting paid to fuck every American over with her pre written responses to every question, itโ€™s quite the reality show, the Whitehouse.
 
Kamala Harris, Val Demmings, Keisha Lance Bottoms, Susan Rice, Tammy Duckworth.

Hilary saw the writing on the wall that no one likes her. If she ran, it might be 4 more years of Trump. Better to step aside than let that happen.

And itโ€™s Kamala Harris as VP candidate.
 
You guys' posts are really laughable as you guys have no clue about this virus. This is the virus developed by the Chinese Communist Party. It's a bioweapon targetting the USA.

To Trump's credit, he issued the travel ban at the end of Jan 2020 and was blamed by all Democrats. All those idiot Democrats were busy to impeach him and Nancy even went to the China town to show it's not a big deal.

If you guys open your eyes and looking around the world, you will know the real evil is the Chinese Communist Party. It hijacked 1.4 billion Chinese people and use this big market to bribe politicians, businessmen and also support all bad regimes like North Korea, Iran etc. Trump is the only leader in the western world who has the courage to stand strong against the Chinese Communist Party.

Do you guys know that Fauci has been collaborating with the Chinese Communist Party? This virus was developed in the P4 Lab in the city called Wuhan where this pandemic first outbroke. NIH led by Fauci gave this lab a few million dollars a few years ago.

The funny thing is you guys don't know how ugly this world is and how bad those regimes are but everyone is blaming Trump. Do you know Biden's son got lots of money from the Chinese communist party? If Biden is elected, the whole western civilization will be doomed because Biden can't stand strong when facing the Chinese Communist Party.

Trump is surrounded by many people who hate him and he didn't realize it before it's too late. Fauci is the advisor of public health for Trump but he set up the trap for Trump. Do you guys know that a Chinese scientist escaped from Hongkong P3 Lab sent out a message telling the world that this virus would cause human to human transmission back in Jan 2020? Because of this, Trump made the decision to issue the travel ban but Fauci criticized Trump's decision and publicly not suggesting wearing a mask.

As to the death toll in USA, the same scientist delivered messages back in Jan 2020 that the hydroxychloroquine is very effective to treat patients. However, because Trump recommended it everyone was trying to prevent people from taking it. That's why the death toll in the USA is so high.

All those protestings definitely made the pandemic even worse and Fauci didn't give a clear message to the public. The Chinese Communist Party fueled those protestings by giving money and messing social media.

So, guys, please wake up. You don't need to like Trump. But he's a true fighter and the Chinese Communist Party is trying every possible way to bring him down. For the sake of the future of this world, please support him not Biden.
 
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    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  27. Annie Spa:
    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday November 7th with gorgeous young girls Cici and Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  28. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  29. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & New Girl Angela are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  30. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, SALMA, ANGEL, LUCY, MEERA, MALIYA, NISHA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  31. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy & Nayla are here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  32. sunnyrocks:
    In GTA region
  33. sunnyrocks:
    Can someone suggest me some real deal breakers under 200hr and FS (no grannies and saggy ladies) preferably pvt condos or any discreet places ) its my forst time so fucking nervous!!!
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 7, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Mia ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Lulu ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call 905-479-6668 to book
  35. nokiah94:
    supreme
  36. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ
  37. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  39. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  40. wonderspa:
    weclome to Wonder spa ,(9421Jane st unit127)Wednesday Rmt on the duty.nice big boost Joy,sexy new girl Tiffany Provice deep tissue massage ,very good looking friendly lucy ,long hair
  41. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 girls here today: Some girls today have special service. Inquire with the ladies. ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. KIKI: A young, short & petite Taiwanese cutie, firm body, 5โ€™2โ€, natural C Cups.
  42. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy, Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  43. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana is here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธJenny๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: ALI, CHERRY & LINDA. ALI (*New Today) is a slim & attractive White/Hispanic mix, whti a great body & sweet services. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary.
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  50. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
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