Nude Reverse And Touching

Both.

Good service is so key, and the reason why some girls/spas do exceptionally well. The bar is set so low. Clean facilities, friendly attitudes, smiles, remembering personal preferences, etc. I don't know why more MPs/MPAs can't figure this out.

btw, lots of girls fake the attitude and make us think it's good service. That's just part of the fantasy.
 
Any wonder why it's easier to get BJs than digits from MPAs.
 
well if you ask Bill, I don't think I had sexual relations with any MP so far.
 
Ahhh PP...In a way, I disagree. I dont think it should be demanded, and not every girl likes it. However, I do think nowadays, its relatively standard fare. I also feel that way about digits, lfk, dfk, etc... Will all of the above happen with everyone, of course not...but all of those are provided quite regularly all over the massage industry. As are bodyslides, foot fetishes, prostate massage, etc. Over the yrs I have been in this industry, mileage demands have risen. Its all part of "MP limits". An attendant should assume she will be doing some or all of that at some point with someone. Probably not with a smelly guy, a grabby guy, an aggressive guy, or an asshole...ideally with lovely, gentlemanly, talented gents
 
No touching las time at Muse for me anyways. I was tied up by the lovely Brooklyn for the full 45 minutes while she did her thing! Gotta do that again!
 
One blatant exception to your statement. Prostate massages are always performed on an asshole!
 
If I recall, you tipped her especially well for that session! That sounded fun, but is it something you'd want to do every session with Brooklyn, or would you repeat with her if she became restrictive in a non-bondage session?
 
And you ride a white horse to these sessions to rescue the damsel in distress. Please get off of the white horse, the bar has been risen, mileage is an important factor in a hot session, so much so that you can't have one without it. That said, yes some other things like attitude, intensity, presence of mind, cleanliness all matter as well. But you cant fake mileage.
 
Glad to have your view from the trenches, MPA2. I think we're on the same page. There's no such thing as "never".

Ultimately, it's a business decision. I might accept certain restrictions in the first session, but I'll lose interest quickly if things don't get more interesting the third time I see her. You're right that expectations have changed. From chatting with fellow hobbyists, I think much more is expected in that first session now.

HG - funny cuz it's true!
 
So who should I see first, LIA or HAZEL ?!

Seriously though:

I agree the mileage bar has definitely been raised in the 7 years I've been visiting MP's.

DATY, DFK is much more prevalent than in the past. It's obviously an MPA's right to choose when it comes to her own body. That said, nowdays I can't see a highly restrictive MPA making money with repeat clients, unless she's VERY special.
 
All of the girls have their limits, and it's important to respect them. Just because you're not engaging in a particular act (whatever it might be..) doesn't mean that you can't still have a mindblowingly amazing session if both you and your attendant have the right attitude (and making your attendant uncomfortable is probably not going to end well..)

That said, all other things being equal, more mileage is better than less.. and I'm not too sure I'd be keen to repeat if I got the short end of the stick on the YMMV scale (not counting the first visit).
 
Hey Tease. Not just with Brooklyn but with any mp or even sp for that matter. I've seen her three times and counting: The first two were great as well (non-bondage) She has both the look and persona to match. I don't know how Muse does it.

Also, I posted earlier I'd like to have a session with Bailey, And Brooklyn for the half at 220 all inclusive. That's definetly on my to do list. BTW richecag I got your message but couldn't respond because apparently your inbox is full. My response tho is go see Brooklyn you won't regret it.
 
I must admit I haven't been hobbying much as of lately, but over the 10 years since I started, mileage was definitely a ymmv. The way I always looked at it, the better looking,hotter (body, face, etc) MPA usually wouldn't give it up easy because they have more going for them. The, lets say, more average type MPA usually would give it up pretty much right away. That has been my experience.

To be honest, I am more or less am a true MPA guy. I like the build up, the tease, the subtleties of a real good session. If I was really gung-ho about doing Daty, DFK, Digits etc, I would just go to a SP.

I think the real "stars" of this business, personally, are the ones that use creativity, special manoeuvres, work the room, incorporate some individuality into their sessions. I wouldn't necessarily judge a good session on whether the MPA lets me do whatever I want to them. I have left some of the most intense, best sessions I have ever had and everything that went on was very much on the level.

I have been a repeat client of a few legendary MPA's and I would say that, even with the, I need not venture into these so-called new expectations because they are that good at their jobs. Obviously this is a very personal opinion and it seems on this board that there are clients from each end of the spectrum. I pretty much stick to the "elite" spas and I am very happy with what I get. And if it means anything, I am always respectful, clean and nice.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I completely agree!! Mileage doesnt = a good/great session. 2 totally different things. Even mileage can get boring without creativity, personality, passion, and a girl who gives a shit about the customers experience.
 
Speaking for myself, I completely respect the comfort level of any MPA I'm with... I can't think of anything that would be less pleasant than trying to push an MPA past her comfort level - not my idea of fun. So I respect the boundaries wherever they are set, and if it's a session full of limits, distance and minimal teasing, I will be very polite and pleasant, pay in full, and never repeat. There is never a requirement for any MPA to do anything they don't want to do, but again I do believe it creates a practical question as to how well they can do financially in a competitive field where other MPAs aren't as concerned about keeping their clients at arms length. Men are what they are... even though some have different tastes, most guys will prefer a sensual, intimate session; that's just simply a reality that also deserves respect from those who choose to work in this industry.
 
Absolutely! If you think of any of the legends that's exactly the thing that sets them apart.
 
right me too...I was receiving and providing a massage service...nothing more...
 
I'm in Ottawa and the massage/escort market here is very different.

Why are the Toronto massage parlors so popular when the prices are so close to the escort agencies? Why is wanting/getting more mileage from MA's an issue when you can get whatever you want from an escort for, it seems to me, just a few dollars more? What am I missing? Are the MA's simply much more beautiful/sensual than the escorts? I visit Toronto a few times a year and with such huge selection (compared to Ottawa), it's hard to know who to see! Thx,
 
Its indesputable that the mind is the most powerful sex-organ we (men AND women) possess .... If a man's mind is stimulated during a massage session then the Lady who is attending to him becomes one of the "Legends" of whom we all speak, and its totally regardless of the "mileage" .... We will come away experiencing the afterglow we lacked when we arrrived at MP.

That being said, If we as clients can stimulate the minds of the Ladies, the possibilties that we'll be very pleasantly surprised, surely may increase ...

In addition the the hygiene factor already discussed at length .... respect and charm may well contribute to a truly memorable session

Within MP limits .... of course !!
 
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    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, New Girl Lina & Tray, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist
  45. すみません:
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  46. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim petite
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    🫦 Coco, Phoenix & Ada are in today 📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 🫦Phoenix is a Canadian Born Filipino Hottie 💄Coco is a young sexy Taiwanese girl 🫦 Ada is a sexy European Hottie 👄 All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. See You Health Center:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️416-988-2950
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena young Vietnamese sweetheart girl has plump lips, flawless glory skin, Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl
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