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Jim asked you for the time and the location you went to. It sounds like he is going to check with the girl and do something for you.

Tipping is one of the tricky parts for a Spa Owner to control; it is between a client and the girl in a room. Only the two know what has been done and if the fees are justified. Many girls have short-term views, because they don't know if they will work in that spa next week or even in the industry for how long. From my experience with Echo and how Outforastroll sounds, it seems like a valid claim.

Hope Jim can sort that out for you in a satisfactory way.
Did you post a review of Echo and did you talk to Renee about your experience? Have to tell you, Echo usually has no problem and is not greedy from what I hear but as always, if the girl has been recently greeted by Aunt Flow, a discussion about a price should be arranged before hand.
 
Did you post a review of Echo and did you talk to Renee about your experience? Have to tell you, Echo usually has no problem and is not greedy from what I hear but as always, if the girl has been recently greeted by Aunt Flow, a discussion about a price should be arranged before hand.
Unfortunately I posted this review on the SL thread but saw her at SL’s sister spa in Oakville. However, my posting comments has been taken away from me on that thread, so can no longer put the review there. I did not speak to Renee, as she was not at the front when I arrived, and did not see her when I left. I saw echo on Monday evening
 
Unfortunately I posted this review on the SL thread but saw her at SL’s sister spa in Oakville. However, my posting comments has been taken away from me on that thread, so can no longer put the review there. I did not speak to Renee, as she was not at the front when I arrived, and did not see her when I left. I saw echo on Monday evening
I understand that some buddys may have tight budgets, and perhaps you're in a situation where finances are quite limited.

Echo is an amazing girl, but maybe it would be better for you to focus on hobbies that align with your budget. Good luck, man.
 
I understand that some buddys may have tight budgets, and perhaps you're in a situation where finances are quite limited.

Echo is an amazing girl, but maybe it would be better for you to focus on hobbies that align with your budget. Good luck, man.
🤣🤣 no issues w finances here. Thx for ur input.
 
🤣🤣 no issues w finances here. Thx for ur input.
Are you absolutely certain about this? If your decision to withhold a reasonable tip for the girl isn’t due to financial hardship, it reflects poorly on your character and behavior, or worse, could be viewed as exploitation.

As a man, especially an adult, if you’re short on money, the solution is to go out and earn more—not to pinch $10–20 at someone else's expense, especially a lovely girl’s. Actions like these only lead to a loss of respect from others. You should take a moment to reflect on your behaviors. Instead of spreading joy or kindlness, you’ve only caused trouble, man. Honestly, I’m ashamed on your behalf.
 
Never had a problem with Echo.....HOT. 🥰
Alright, man, it seems to me like you’re showing off your wealth. I have no doubt that you receive the highest level of service from every girl; generous customers always get something extra in return.

In today’s market, a tip in the range of $80–100 is fair, especially for a 45–60-minute session. I don’t see why the girls should be criticized for that.
 
Unfortunately I posted this review on the SL thread but saw her at SL’s sister spa in Oakville. However, my posting comments has been taken away from me on that thread, so can no longer put the review there. I did not speak to Renee, as she was not at the front when I arrived, and did not see her when I left. I saw echo on Monday evening
Unfortunately, you never correct your own mistakes and instead act unreasonably as someone else's moral authority. Echo has been working with The West for nearly a year, and if you only met Echo for the first time this past Monday, you really have no right to criticize or judge here. Haha...
 
Are you absolutely certain about this? If your decision to withhold a reasonable tip for the girl isn’t due to financial hardship, it reflects poorly on your character and behavior, or worse, could be viewed as exploitation.

As a man, especially an adult, if you’re short on money, the solution is to go out and earn more—not to pinch $10–20 at someone else's expense, especially a lovely girl’s. Actions like these only lead to a loss of respect from others. You should take a moment to reflect on your behaviors. Instead of spreading joy or kindlness, you’ve only caused trouble, man. Honestly, I’m ashamed on your behalf.
So a tip of 80-100 is fair? Agreed. Let’s say a 45 min session is an $80 tip and a 60 min session is $100 tip. Would u agree to that?

So explain to me how I have poor character when offering an $80 tip, for a 45 min session? And is it my poor character as well to have been charged the rate for a 1 hour session, but given a 45 min session? And then when offered the difference back, was kept by the girl as a negotiation tactic?

Anyways I’m not going to go back and forth, destroying a thread over an honest review
 
Unfortunately, you never correct your own mistakes and instead act unreasonably as someone else's moral authority. Echo has been working with The West for nearly a year, and if you only met Echo for the first time this past Monday, you really have no right to criticize or judge here. Haha...
Wow. U must b her stalker she had mentioned..
 
Wow. U must b her stalker she had mentioned..
Funny logic—just because I called you out, now I’m “the stalker.” The way you talk, throwing personal attacks, is really not cool. I wasn’t wrong about you—you’re full of bad behavior and moral corruption. Nothing you say is worth believing.
 
So a tip of 80-100 is fair? Agreed. Let’s say a 45 min session is an $80 tip and a 60 min session is $100 tip. Would u agree to that?

So explain to me how I have poor character when offering an $80 tip, for a 45 min session? And is it my poor character as well to have been charged the rate for a 1 hour session, but given a 45 min session? And then when offered the difference back, was kept by the girl as a negotiation tactic?

Anyways I’m not going to go back and forth, destroying a thread over an honest review
Oh my god, do you think you’re Donald Trump or something?
Prices are decided through negotiation between both sides of the market, not by you. Simply put, you don’t have that kind of authority.
If you feel like you can’t afford it, like I said, maybe find a different hobby. There’s no need to hide your financial struggles—being broke just shows you lack capability. But if you’re broke and still go around blaming others, that’s where you’re lacking morals. And that’s exactly why I’m calling you out.
 
So a tip of 80-100 is fair? Agreed. Let’s say a 45 min session is an $80 tip and a 60 min session is $100 tip. Would u agree to that?

So explain to me how I have poor character when offering an $80 tip, for a 45 min session? And is it my poor character as well to have been charged the rate for a 1 hour session, but given a 45 min session? And then when offered the difference back, was kept by the girl as a negotiation tactic?

Anyways I’m not going to go back and forth, destroying a thread over an honest review
Dude, you’re just a paid shill for OM, writing lies for money—everyone here knows it. The moment you say the word “honest,” it’s a joke. You don’t even deserve to use that word. See? I wasn’t wrong. You’re just morally corrupt.
 
Jim has already taken up this issue, so let him deal with the client. Hopefully, it will be resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

Tipping is between the client and the girl. I would pay less for a legit massage for a shorter time, but I would tip the normal fee regardless of whether I have 30 minutes or 60 minutes of BS because the girl has given a lot. This is the usual practice in a semi-legit place like SL, but not everyone knows or agrees.
 
Dude, you’re just a paid shill for OM, writing lies for money—everyone here knows it. The moment you say the word “honest,” it’s a joke. You don’t even deserve to use that word. See? I wasn’t wrong. You’re just morally corrupt.
Sorry if I hit a nerve. Not a paid shill for OM, but a satisfied customer there. Guess I’ll just visit places that r good for me and my money.
 
Sorry if I hit a nerve. Not a paid shill for OM, but a satisfied customer there. Guess I’ll just visit places that r good for me and my money.
No, you’re lying. Sorry to be blunt, but you’re talking nonsense. You’re just one of the many fake accounts of that “bicycle boy,” and you should be blacklisted.

Everyone here should know what kind of place OM is, and clearly, you’re satisfied with it. You shouldn’t even be on SL—it’s a completely different vibe.

The same kind of complaints keep popping up, and honestly, you’re just a plain liar.
 
No, you’re lying. Sorry to be blunt, but you’re talking nonsense. You’re just one of the many fake accounts of that “bicycle boy,” and you should be blacklisted.

Everyone here should know what kind of place OM is, and clearly, you’re satisfied with it. You shouldn’t even be on SL—it’s a completely different vibe.

The same kind of complaints keep popping up, and honestly, you’re just a plain liar.
Ok
 
Sorry if I hit a nerve. Not a paid shill for OM, but a satisfied customer there. Guess I’ll just visit places that r good for me and my money.
Sorry, but a paid shill is basically just a pimp. And honestly, you don’t even qualify to be one. That’s just the truth—if I’m wrong, feel free to correct me. You’re just a low-level, ordinary shill, writing lies to trick customers from here. At the same time, you’re just a hired thug, attacking its competitors like BMR, all for some free room fees. That’s about as shameless as you get.

I know your real goal is to make fake complaints just to score discounts. Look at you—how shameless can you be? It’s even more embarrassing than your lack of ability. That’s exactly why I have zero respect for you.

Go ahead, keep performing. Let’s see just how far you can go with your lack of dignity.
 
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Thanks for admitting and agreeing with my point. As a man, if you can earn enough money, you wouldn’t think wasting an entire day harassing others over a $10-20 tip is worth it. Making money by maliciously attacking a vulnerable girl? That’s just disgusting.

Of course, you can keep being a shill, but stop falsely attacking others while you’re at it. Oh, and one more thing—Echo confirmed she didn’t mention anything about “the stalker” to anyone on Monday. You’re straight-up lying. Have a nice day, bad guy.
 
Sorry, but a paid shill is basically just a pimp. And honestly, you don’t even qualify to be one. That’s just the truth—if I’m wrong, feel free to correct me. You’re just a low-level, ordinary shill, writing lies to trick customers. Or, you’re just a hired thug, attacking competitors like BMR, all for some free room stays. That’s about as shameless as it gets.

I know your real goal is to make fake complaints just to score discounts. Look at you—how shameless can you be? It’s even more embarrassing than your lack of ability. That’s exactly why I have zero respect for you.

Go ahead, keep performing. Let’s see just how far you can go with your lack of dignity.
Yep ur absolutely right.
 
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