Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

You know, in a way I can see how "silencing" people on social media just ends up taunting them and creating a "martyr." On the other hand, there is people, like Jimmy the Retard, who are not bound to any rules of common sense and just run their trolling propaganda machine with overtime. Those people have to be shut down. Robert Malone has a very "trolly" vibe to him, and he sounds like a bitter old man. Trolls cannot be taken seriously, or have you ever gotten anywhere taking Jimmy seriously before?
Yeah, with respect...I could not disagree more with the notion that wrong ideas need to be "shut down". Argue with people, yes, even ridicule bad opinions, sure...but shut down, no. First, it doesn't work. Second, look at history and see how many times ideas that turned out to have value started out as being ridiculed.

I happen to disagree with JimmyD's take on this issue, but a few months back I was roughly on the same side of his political arguments. I don't think anyone, myself included, is right all the time. But the acceptance the idea of "shutting down" has gained is really worrisome and does not bode well for society.
 
Yeah, with respect...I could not disagree more with the notion that wrong ideas need to be "shut down". Argue with people, yes, even ridicule bad opinions, sure...but shut down, no. First, it doesn't work. Second, look at history and see how many times ideas that turned out to have value started out as being ridiculed.

I happen to disagree with JimmyD's take on this issue, but a few months back I was roughly on the same side of his political arguments. I don't think anyone, myself included, is right all the time. But the acceptance the idea of "shutting down" has gained is really worrisome and does not bode well for society.

When it's a matter of public safety then it has to be done. Information is very valuable, and I mean that in dollars and cents value. People like Robert Malone and Matias are exploiting the people who are prone to believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those kind of people should be silenced.

Jimmy.... not silenced but just ignored. He doesn't have any original ideas or opinions of his own. He sees the title of an article and he believes it. This guy probably never read anything, not even a comic book.
 
When it's a matter of public safety then it has to be done. Information is very valuable, and I mean that in dollars and cents value. People like Robert Malone and Matias are exploiting the people who are prone to believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those kind of people should be silenced.

Jimmy.... not silenced but just ignored. He doesn't have any original ideas or opinions of his own. He sees the title of an article and he believes it. This guy probably never read anything, not even a comic book.
You mean like the proverbial shout of "fire" in a crowded theatre? Yes, in those circumstances we have to curtail free speech, but not in the context of medical advice in a pandemic. Plus, as I've already pointed out--IT DOES NOT WORK. Joe Rogan alone has a bigger audience than most legacy media combined. All that curtailing free speech achieves is it gives a semblance of credibility to the people they try to silence. But much worse than that, if you take away speech as a tool you leave people with no other option but violence. It is curious to me how easily people have forgotten that lesson.
 

An interesting conversation amongst immunologists. It's refreshing when you can hear a group of experts talking about an issue without conspiracy dramas and pseudo science or religious hocus pocus.

@stripfan Does Jesus advocate for conspiracy theories? Sunday school me please. I could be converted, I promise you.
 
Indeed it has. As a Veterinary drug for treating worms in horses. In the correct dose, it is used in people to also treat parasitic diseases.

I think I'll disengage from this conversation. I learned long ago not to engage in conversations with people on the Internet, especially when it's clear that the other person is ill-informed. I'll just leave these two links for you and wish you well.



Is that the same FDA thatโ€™s pushing Pfizer, when Pfizerโ€™s CEO said itโ€™s ineffective against omicron?

So, are you disputing its Nobel association, or itโ€™s efficacy with that article.

You said ivermectin was hurting and killing people. Not sure how thatโ€™s a rebuttal.


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What could be the reason for this strange decision? You'll have to ask the tranny Jew who runs the health department of the USA.
 
Ya the opinion of one guy vs a massive investigation conducted by several agencies, but carry on. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems unlikely.

I love the theory that COVID is a grand plot conducted by governments and I dunno, rich people or some shit. Then I was remembering the big dust-up between Canada and the US over milk or eggs or some fucking thing a couple of years ago. So two governments that by any measure are the best of friends literally can't agree on the price of eggs, yet governments that are sworn enemies over many decades are able to conduct this great conspiracy in complete secrecy, discovered only by a handful of YouTube Experts. (Is that a thing?) It's absolutely laughable and worthy of a Monty Python skit.
 
People do choose not to get vaccinated for many reasons, and the vast majority of them are stupid.

And yes, I agree, there is evidence that fully vaxed people can still spread the virus, however their viral load is much smaller. Consider two people with a method of squirting water on another person. One has a fire hose. The other has a squirt gun. But yes, both have the ability to get someone else wet. Regardless, if the person they spread it to is also vaccinated, that person will be just fine.

You're making my head explode. If you actually believe this shit you're posting, then I feel sorry for you. I hope you don't catch COVID and die. But Natural Selection is a bitch.

I'm muting now. Have a nice day,

I had Covid (delta). Catch up with the discussion. I have better immunity than most now. I wonder how natural selection will work itself out with the long term effects of the Covid vaccines.

Your fire hose analogy would be good, only if the data didnโ€™t show that vaxxed and unvaxxed spread it the same. The tens of thousands of vaxxed cases in the last few months should tell you that regardless of the data though.


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I had Covid (delta). Catch up with the discussion. I have better immunity than most now. I wonder how natural selection will work itself out with the long term effects of the Covid vaccines.

Your fire hose analogy would be good, only if the data didnโ€™t show that vaxxed and unvaxxed spread it the same. The tens of thousands of vaxxed cases in the last few months should tell you that regardless of the data though.


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Alleged infection. You should include the disclaimer when speaking about your "alleged infection." So far, we are all leaning towards believing that you are secretly vaxxed and here just to troll.
 
I haven't been following him, but the conclusions he's drawing in the piece you shared are extraordinary. The vaccines "don't work and should be taken off the market"? That in itself is an incomplete and irresponsible statement. If he'd qualified it by saying they're ineffective at limiting the spread of the infection, I'd understand...but every sign indicates the vaccines are quite effective minimizing serious cases.

I didnโ€™t share the article, but I heard him say similar things on another interview. The spike in the current vaccine does nothing for omicron, and could create problems going forward.

Everything that is happening today with the never ending boosters, the breakthrough cases etc. he talked about months ago. Not to mention the ADE.


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Yup he's on ignore now. I love a good Internet Troll but not when they're spreading information that is killing people, I have little patience. In my personal FB, I have a feature I call COVIDIOT of the Day. Generally, the featured person is (or more likely was) a COVID denier or antivaxxer that's now rotting in a hole in the ground. I'm fine with that, but what I am not fine with is when these are people that have a megaphone to spread their shit, and as a result, assist in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.

Bear in mind, that I work in scientific endeavours and I'm biologist by trade. Just as most things economic boil down to "supply and demand", most biological things boil down to Natural Selection. Mother Nature is currently doing a fine job of removing stupid people (and Republicans!) from the gene pool. As a biologist, I understand that over-population is the largest problem facing humanity. For decades, I've joked that the world would benefit from a good pandemic. With "only" 6 million deaths worldwide, COVID is falling short. We need to kill off about 2 - 3 billion people to make a real difference. However, it's a start, and it's always best to lose the stupid people.

Some of my colleges and I regularly engage in "What if..?" discussions. Here is a current one: What if no vaccines had been developed to fight COVID? How many would have died, and when would it end? Our best guess is that it may well have killed 100 million people, perhaps more. Still a long way shy of what we need. There is a reasonable chance we'll see another zootropic-based pandemic in our lifetimes. As populations become more and more congested (especially in Asia) and where people are obliged to eat unsafe food, it's inevitable. The development of mRNA vaccines is perhaps the greatest medical development in health care in a century, but it's not a huge stretch to imagine a viral disease that defies an effective vaccine development. Imagine if HIV spread in the same way COVID does. There's no cure for it, but it's relatively difficult to spread HIV as it requires direct mucous or blood contact. COVID spreads through atomization. Imagine walking past someone in your condo that is surrounded in an invisible cloud of HIV that you are almost guaranteed to catch.

Anyway, Jimmy is being ignored. I suspect he's vaccinated and trolling, but maybe he really is just fucking stupid as a sack of hammers.

Put that head back in the sand, bro. All the best!


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Ya the opinion of one guy vs a massive investigation conducted by several agencies, but carry on. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems unlikely.

I love the theory that COVID is a grand plot conducted by governments and I dunno, rich people or some shit. Then I was remembering the big dust-up between Canada and the US over milk or eggs or some fucking thing a couple of years ago. So two governments that by any measure are the best of friends literally can't agree on the price of eggs, yet governments that are sworn enemies over many decades are able to conduct this great conspiracy in complete secrecy, discovered only by a handful of YouTube Experts. (Is that a thing?) It's absolutely laughable and worthy of a Monty Python skit.

None of the conspiracists have ever even accused anyone directly, just a mysterious force that cannot be named is seemingly controlling and pulling the strings.

Don't hold your breath waiting for a culprit, or evidence of it.

Maybe we can shrug it off and blame it on QAnon?
 
Hey Hornet.com. The definition of living in someoneโ€™s head is what Iโ€™m doing to Frank. Not sure thereโ€™s one post he doesnโ€™t mention my name.

Keep it coming though.


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Joe Rogan alone has a bigger audience than most legacy media combined.

Definitely the touchstone by which all major healthcare decisions should be made... the opinion of a former comedian and kickboxer (who apparently suffered some brain damage) and university drop out. I'd never heard of the guy until a few weeks ago.
 
What could be the reason for this strange decision? You'll have to ask the tranny Jew who runs the health department of the USA.
They didn't pull them all... Just two, that are completely ineffective at treating Omicron. You might try reading the body of articles, rather than just the click-bait headline.
 
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  33. Fantomas:
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  34. DareDevil:
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  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  36. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Gigi, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. SugarLoveSpa:
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  38. Lilyspa1:
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  39. wonderspa:
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  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  41. AliceSpa:
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  42. Lulu1980:
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  43. wilson holistic centre:
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  44. Nu spring spa888:
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  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
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