Which is more correct?

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Which is professionally correct? CMT or LMT? What distinguishes the use of one over the other? Thank you!
 


It depends entirely on where you live and what the regulations are, if they require (or offer) licensing or certification or both. Where I am it would make absolutely no difference whatsoever.
 


Here in Florida we are all LMTs because that is what the State of Florida designated us to be.

As ROS stated above...it depends on where you live.

Angie
 


As both of the above posters mentioned, it depends on where you are. You don't get to "pick" the initials behind your name, the state has done that for you. Now, you may get to pick a particular program for a set of "initials", but the initials are regulated.

Good luck in school. :)
 


Here in Minnesota, they are both completely bogus, as there is NO state licensure or certification. However, you will see many therapists here advertising themselves as LMT, CMT, DMT, etc...

Since Minnesota has not designated a formal title for massage therapists, only MT, NCTM, or NCTMB are truly correct here.
 


Thank you all for your response. I will have to research what the State of Illinois chooses to label our kind.
I love this site! You give good community! LOL :-) Thank you!
 


maestra said:

That one confused me too. The practitioner stated it means "Diploma Massage Therapy" - in other words, she had completed a training program of some sort. She also listed CMT and LMT on her card, so for all I know she made up DMT on her own.

In any case, LMT, CMT, and DMT are all bogus in Minnesota.
 


JasonE said:
maestra said:

That one confused me too. The practitioner stated it means "Diploma Massage Therapy" - in other words, she had completed a training program of some sort. She also listed CMT and LMT on her card, so for all I know she made up DMT on her own.

In any case, LMT, CMT, and DMT are all bogus in Minnesota.

If one takes the national certification test and passes, why not use CMT? The state may not have ordained it, but they are still certified to do massage therapy.
 


RevitalizingRae said:
Thank you all for your response. I will have to research what the State of Illinois chooses to label our kind.
I love this site! You give good community! LOL :-) Thank you!

As far as I know, we're LMT's (since we're licensed.)

Some people will throw in CMT or NCTM/NCTMB. But since the state requires licensing, then once you get it, LMT should suffice ;) .
 


Actually, CMT is perfectly legit even in unlicensed states, (f/i, Oregon, a licensure state, does not allow the use of CMT as it is covered under LMT. No LMT, no CMT,) unless specifically excluded as mentioned or otherwise, if you take a training program that offers a certificate of completion. Professional organizations may have specific requirements, but if you have a certificate, you are "certified."

I guess since Minnesota is UNregulated, CMT is just as legit as MT. (or equally bogus.)
 


JasonE said:
Here in Minnesota, they are both completely bogus, as there is NO state licensure or certification. However, you will see many therapists here advertising themselves as LMT, CMT, DMT, etc...

Since Minnesota has not designated a formal title for massage therapists, only MT, NCTM, or NCTMB are truly correct here.

I come from MN and now live in Colorado. Colorado requires 500 hours and then each city decides on further requirements. I am a CMT. I am Certified through ABMP. If I was living in MN I would use CMT and it would be legit because it is through ABMP.

Also, what about those therapists that work in a city that requires a license? I thought St. Paul, MN was one of them?
 


Rocky Mountains said:
I come from MN and now live in Colorado. Colorado requires 500 hours and then each city decides on further requirements. I am a CMT. I am Certified through ABMP. If I was living in MN I would use CMT and it would be legit because it is through ABMP.

Also, what about those therapists that work in a city that requires a license? I thought St. Paul, MN was one of them?

Being a member of ABMP or AMTA or whatever does not make you a CMT. They provide insurance and other professional services, but neither one "certifies" you as anything more than being a member of their organization.

Having a business license to practice in a particular city doesn't qualify you to be an LMT, any more than having a having a business license to operate a spa/salon makes you a licensed cosmetologist.
 


JasonE said:
Being a member of ABMP or AMTA or whatever does not make you a CMT. They provide insurance and other professional services, but neither one "certifies" you as anything more than being a member of their organization.

Having a business license to practice in a particular city doesn't qualify you to be an LMT, any more than having a having a business license to operate a spa/salon makes you a licensed cosmetologist.

Certified membership in ABMP requires proof of completion of a certificate course of a specific duration. If she has a certified membership, she's probably a CMT unless use of the initials is prohibited by her locale.

If your city requires licensure as a therapist through city bureaucracy, you're a licensed massage therapist, as this is different than a city business license. California has lots of variations like this.

You're rather narrowminded in your definition of what constitutes a legitimate massage practitioner, aren't you? I would guess that very few here on this board meet your standards.
 


For practical purposes, the only MT titles in MN that might be subject to enforcement are trademarks used to represent specific modalities.
 


DMT could certainly be legit also, as a title issued by the institute giving the diploma. The practitioner who listed CMT and LMT on her card may also have taken a course that issued the title CMT (legitimizing her use of the term), and she may also hold a license in another state (same). Just because someone uses terms you are unfamiliar with does not automatically make them a liar.

A title does not have to be under the control of the state in order to be legit, Jason. Good lord. You yourself very proudly list NCTMB after your name - a board that is not your state has CERTIFIED that you passed their test. That board is not recognized by your state, but you (correctly) claim the certification.

You are confused about the difference between certification, licensing, and the earning of diplomas.
 
how about LMBT?

I wish I could simply be an "MT" ~ folks can decipher that.

North Carolina mandates "LMBT", for Licensed Massage and Bodywork Therapist.

Which is a good conversation stater when I am wearing my name eforum.xxx ;)

DLM, LMBT #6363
 
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  35. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  36. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl & Asian girl today
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  43. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  46. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young slime Summer 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nana, Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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