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hi,
at the mo i am doing a reflexology course, its a basic course then you need to do an advance course after, what i wanted to know is does anyone use eg reflex balls or crystal wands e.t.c or do you only give a treatment using just the hands, i didn't know if people are labling their products as tools to use in reflexology so people of the public would buy from them thinking its what professionals use.[&:]
regards
dye
 
I don't use any tools - just fingers and thumbs.

Sulis xx
 
In reply to your message, I do use tools but not crystal wands etc. I did my VTCT Trg in the UK and went to Singapore to do the basic course in Rwo Shur Reflexology with Geraldine Tan. She uses a wooden tool, and the reason for using this is to 'save the fingers and thumbs'. In the Rwo Shur clinic in Singapore, the ladies can have up to 20 clients a day, and they have been practising Rwo Shur for the last 20 years. You can go as deep or as light as you can. So for treatments, if I need to get around the heel area and its always difficult to thumb around this part, I use the wooded stick.
 
hi, thank you for all your answers, if anyone else does use anything to help with the treatment please can you let me know
thanks alot
love dye
 
as a matter of interest, if you use a stick or a wand to do treatments, how do you know if crystal deposits are present? and how can you judge how deep/ light you are going?

i know thai foot uses a stick, so i imagine the singapore therapy would... and i have heard comments about these therapies hurting. are they supposed to? i realise that reflexology can find sensitive areas that are tender, but how does the stick thing work within a clients limits?
 
I'm dredging this up from the depths of my memory here, and it is purely an observation, but if a reflexologist wants to use implements don't they have to check to make sure it's OK with their professional body/insurer?
 
I have sent my Rwo Shur Cert to my insurers last year and they havent been rejected and Im off to do my Advaced Rwo Shur in April in Singapore. However I have also done a course in Thai Foot/Hand Massage and this uses a wooden tool. I have had treatments out in the Far East and it is very painful, but the pain is short and sharp and goes away quickly. The effect is instant. I put my back out and she corrected the problem with a few strokes of the tool. As far as I am concerned I do use fingers/thumbs, knuckles and reach for the wooden tool only in areas that are very hard skinned like heel areas. I believe in the Rwo Shur method because of its effectiveness and as far as foot maps are concerned I use the Beijing School of Reflexology Foot Map which is identical to a Thai Foot Reflex Map which is identical to the Rwo Shur Foot Map.

Please entlighten me as to crystal wands?
 
Crystal wands are similar to what you are talking about but made from crystals (various types). They are shaped, wider at one end than the other and used in the same way.

Is it possible to get a copy of your foot chart? I saw a really interesting one the other day from 1980 that a nurse had done and it was very in depth. I would love a copy of it if possible.

As for the pain bit, I think there is a lot in it. My friend had reflexology at Singapore Airport, it hurt like hell but it was very effective. I don't go for the softly softly approach myself but then don't set out to hurt either.

I have used the wands but didn't stick with it, but can see they and other tools have a place. I usually use my knuckles on the heel area. I would imagine you would do your feeling with your thumbs first and then use them if necessary?
 
I have used crystal wands before in reflexology but only really because I am doing a crystal course at the moment and wanted to try to incorporate the crystals into other treatments. The main reason i used them was to stimulate an area rather than using it as a diagnostic tool (if that makes sense[&:]) - A crystal wand could be used if energy work is also being done as they can concentrate and focus the energy into one specific point and different crystals can aid different ailments.
Hope this helps
xx
 
Yes the Eastern Method of Reflexology is painful, but I dont go in too deeply, just enough to feel crystal deposits with thumbs, however if areas are really hard to get into without breaking one's thumb and use the wooden tool. In reply to Rosie, I did a course at Sue Ricks and she uses Soft Touch. Asked if if the touch is so gentle, how did she feel for crystal deposits. Answer to that is she doesnt feel for crystal desposits because she believes by balancing and using the soft approach, if there are deposits, by frequent Reflex. sessions, they wil disperse anyway.

Candie, will scan a copy of Rwo Shur foot map and email or fax it to you at your clinic. Unfortunately, Beijing School of Reflex Map is too big, poster size. Have got a copy of Thai Foot Map, so will scan and send/fax.
 
Hi Panicky, I would love to see the foot map too if you are able to email it? We only touched on Rwo Shur during my training. Do you consider Rwo Shur to be a completely different discipline from reflexology, or as a sort of 'branch' of it?
 
As soon as I get round to scanning the foot maps will email you with it. As I also work full-timea as a PA, and do treatments in the evening and at wkends, I am a bit busy, but will certainly email you with the 'Eastern' footmaps. I only read about Rwo Shur on Google and was totlaly fascinated by it. As I visit Singapore quite regularly, I decided to do the Basic Rwo Shur and the whole concept of treating is different to here. We have a more gentle and kinder approach to treating and the concern is that the client feels good after a treatment. In the Far East, the 'feel good' relaxed feeling is left out of the treatment so if you go for a Reflex. treatment, its to 'cure' the problem. A Reflex treatment costs around £7-£8. There is no regulation bodies out there and everything is passed down - like other eastern therapies, ie acupuncture/chinese herbal medicine etc. The treatment of reflex is painful. Lots of knuckling (mainly to preserve the fingers because they believe that you use up Chi energy if you use fingers and therefore you will not be able to carry on treating lots of clients). There is alos a Rwo Shur Massage Board where you do a keep fit routine daily. This is as good as having a Reflex treatment yourself. It is basically a board with lots of pointy bits and you stand on this board to music, and it 'wakes'up the reflex points. When I go back in April to do my Advanced Rwo Shur, I will purchase these boards. It is fascinating how Eastern Reflx differs in approach and footmaps but I respect it and so far use these footmaps for all my treatments but I respect the client and adapt pressure to suit.
 
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    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Anita, ~Cindy & Tray, *nicole tracy cindy Anita is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴
  44. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just
  45. See You Health Center:
    Suki 💕 From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples 🥑🥑Sami💕 Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5’ 2” tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style and Provides Excellent Customer ☎️ 416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie 💕 She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5’ 2”, 100 lbs black Hair
GFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu 🥑 Judy💕 is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5’2” tall. 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons 🥑 Candy💕 She is a Vietnamese With nice Sexy Slender Body, Curves and Sweet Melons ☎️647-446-0886
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHERRY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LUNA is a slim and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything.
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today , young sweet Sophia slime 30’s and Young fun Yoyo 36DD 30’s open mind, cute GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Cici😘A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite👍She is very friendly, very cute and exquisite little model!!🥰Real pic
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹3 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 nice girl Luna and Ivy big boobs 36DD 😘😘😘😘Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
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