Treating male clients please help!

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Hi all

I run a complementary therapy business for my home, when I first started up the business I had a lot of men ringing up obviously wanted services of a sexual nature, anyway first of all I decided to to say no to all men but that did not seem sensible from a business point of view so I decided to treat men, anyway I phone screen them before they come , but the point isI just never feel comfortable treating men, no one has ever tried anything deviant yet but their is one man in particular I feel very uneasy around and I cannot explain why. Doyou thinkthis feeling will go when I have had the practice up and running longer or maybe fornowI should just be treating women. Has anybody else experienced this problem? please help.
 
Hi Kate,

I think you should perhaps listen to your intuition when it comes to treating men (and anyone else). If you feel at all uncomfortable or uneasy, it is best to listen to your inner self and politely decline a treatment.

It might be better even if you could only treat male clients when there is someone else there for example. This may change the way you feel.

But for now, why not just stick to treating female clients if you are more comfortable with them, and when your business and confidence is expanding, perhaps open your client base to accept male customers?

Don't worry though - plenty of people on here feel the same way, so you are not alone!

Love & light,

Crystal xxx
 
Not another Male Client thread.Why is treating male clients different from treating female clients? are there no dubious female clients? Kate if men are phoning up asking about sexual services where are you advertising? use a bit of logic.
 

I think this is unfair. Most female therapists (and possibly some male therapists) have had some dodgy calls. I advertised for a year only in the Yellow Pages about three years ago, under Complementary Therapies, with my Professional Association letters after my name and listing all my therapies. I always say I do holistic massage, rather than just massage. Now I only advertise on health websites, but still getthe odd strange request. Unfortunately it's an occupational hazard.

Having said that, I've always been comfortable with any male clients I have treated and find that they are often the most regular clients.

Lesley
 
Scorpio,

Obviously if Kate feels uncomfortable, why not 'another male client thread'?

It oftenhas nothing to do with whereabouts you advertise; the fact is some men do target complementary/alternative therapists, regardless of the fact of they are not actually offering 'extras'.

I would have thought that as a new member on here, we should be offering Kate support, not patronising her.

Use some logic perhaps Scorpio?[sm=soapbox.gif]
 
Well, SCORPIO, I was going to phrasereference to former threadsa little differently and, in welcoming Kate1 to HealthyPages, post a link to a thread on this topic from earlier in the year which she may find useful. Here it is:

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=363904]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=363904[/link]

There is also the 'sticky' on safety for therapists which is pinned to the top of the General Therapies forum, here:

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=422530]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/fb.asp?m=422530[/link]

Holistic
 
Hi Kate
To be honest i advertised on yell.com (surely a logical place to advertise)?for two years under comp therapies and that is where most of my phone calls asking for sexual services came from!!! So you don't have to advertise in the back pages of the newspaper to get dodgy calls!!!
Most of the men i treat now are from referals which makes me feel happier than just cold calling. Just see how it goes and like crystalwitch says stick with females for a while

Love and sparkles
Lisa
xx
 
I think we were all posting at once here, and still are but hopefully my postabove redresses the balance.

Holistic
 
Yep as this is the place to come for support!!!!!

Good luck to you Kate xxx
 
Apologies if my comment was overly direct and yes support should always be available im shocked that people are trawling through yell.com, that is low and ruins it for genuine male clients.I have massages as part of my training routine and have encountered predjudice against males but i figure its only a minority,like most things in life there is always a minority who will ruin it for everyone else.Best wishes to you Kate.
 
Hiyas Kate, welcome to HP. It's a fun place here.

Scorpio, over the last 19 years, I've had jobs in all sorts of places/enviroments, in virtually all walks of life/career paths, there is always the small minority of NUTCASES who ruin it for the rest of society (in that context, place/enviment/work/gender).
 
Hello Kate

You have to be comfortable with the people you treat or the treatments will suffer, if you are not confident in your own ability to handle a male then simply do not treat them, or you could see if there is a room to hire at a local therapy centre where there will be others around and treat any new clients there for a while.

Unfortunately most therapies are a one to one experience, yes we all get an occasional person who we would probably not treat again for one reason or another, most people can be assessed on the phone, there are a few topics on this subject, at the end of the day you have to decide what is right for you, as in all businesses you offer to do a service for x-amount of money or whatever, you can withdraw the offer if you no longer wish to carry on and perform the service :-)
 
Itotally agree with what Paul has said, if you're not comfortable with someone, for whatever reason, the treatment will suffer.

Another idea is offer female only type treatments - I do a lot of pregnancy massage and the only males I've had enquiring about that have been for gift certificates, I've not had a single male want to book in for a pregnancy massage When people ring up and ask what kind of massage do I do, I always say 'pregnancy massage' second or third, itgets rid of people looking for extras pretty quickly, though I've had 2 males over the years ask if I am pregnant. One drawback, or advantage, to pregnancy massage is you only see someone for a few months - I quite like having a fairly high turn over of clients, and I do continue to see some once they have had the baby.
 
hi kate,
welcome to the site .
Im sorry to say there are some sad people out there who have to upset us by these calls, i myself have had few calls but try to not let you put you off. My hubby wanted me to stop doing male clients but no why should i men do need a massage just as much as woman!!
The men i do have as clients are very nice people and have never asked for extras. they just want a massage because they are stressed or back pain.
If you have a website just put a policy then hopefully you wont get any more calls.
good luck kathy
 
Hi all

Thank you for all your support, it is good to know that their are other therapists who have had the same problem. When it comes to advertising I have learnt a lotgoing along,I started outby advertising in my local paper which was when a lot of thehorrible phone calls happened, so I changed the wording which stopped most of the ungenuine callers , but I wouldstill like to find a way of attractingwomenbecause they have been few and far between ,I wonder whether they do not ring because they think I offer something dodgy?, but do not get me wrong I have nothing aganist treatingmen, but I do find myself feeling anxious whena male client comes to my house for the first time.

Kate
 
I had a free listing in yellow pages for a few years, it said my name and baby massage after it. I thought that would sort out the dubious clients and although prevent me from getting massage clients would hopefully get some baby massage clients.

I had one MAN ring me and ask he could weara nappy.
I had one MAN ring me and ask if I was the person advertising baby massage, to which I replied that I was. he then asked if I would visit him in his hotel room and tidy his room for him!

So, no matter how carefully you word your adverts, some people will misconstrude it to fit in with sex.

I have been practising for over 10 years, I have had about 20-30 disturbing phone calls in that time, all from men.

Once when I put my details on one of the free ads on the internet (can't remember which one now) I had a spate of calls to my home number, always on a weekend after closing time asking for me to visit them that night.I had one man ring me at 4am Saturday morning politely asking me if I was 'open for business'.

I now omit my home phone number from anything on the web.
 
Kate, I don't think it's anything personal at all. As I said on another thread, it's very unusual for women to respond to adverts in newspapers or the Yellow Pages. I've had slightly more success with leaflets if they're left in a respectable place such as the doctor's surgery or a respected health food shop.

But most women like to be recommended (and they see leaflets in such places as recommendations), whereas men often don't discuss having treatments with their friends or family and are happy to pick a name out of a phonebook.

Lesley
 
I agree Aromabae. Nice laeflets, in nice places!
- Mine are a bifold style, with a bit about each of the therapies I offer + a mini CV - to introduce myself, with prices / contact details on the back.
Doctor's receptions, dentists, health food shops, local ladies gym, hairdressers etc. Get plenty printed, they'll disappear fast, but you might still only get a smattering of folk who actually phone for appointments. But for each one that does, you'll hopefully get a little word-of-mouth network and so it builds up - can be slow, but at least you'll be getting the type of clients worth waiting for!
And remember, you're only as good as your last therapy!
 
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    โค๏ธ Happy & Nayla are here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  32. sunnyrocks:
    In GTA region
  33. sunnyrocks:
    Can someone suggest me some real deal breakers under 200hr and FS (no grannies and saggy ladies) preferably pvt condos or any discreet places ) its my forst time so fucking nervous!!!
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 7, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Mia ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Lulu ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call 905-479-6668 to book
  35. nokiah94:
    supreme
  36. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ
  37. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Lulu, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  38. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  39. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  40. wonderspa:
    weclome to Wonder spa ,(9421Jane st unit127)Wednesday Rmt on the duty.nice big boost Joy,sexy new girl Tiffany Provice deep tissue massage ,very good looking friendly lucy ,long hair
  41. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 girls here today: Some girls today have special service. Inquire with the ladies. ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. KIKI: A young, short & petite Taiwanese cutie, firm body, 5โ€™2โ€, natural C Cups.
  42. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Happy, Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  43. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana is here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธJenny๐ŸŒธAkame Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: ALI, CHERRY & LINDA. ALI (*New Today) is a slim & attractive White/Hispanic mix, whti a great body & sweet services. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary.
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธTinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  50. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
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