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Hi Guys n Gals, I've gotten to the clinic part of my schooling and now I'm worried about my work. Everyone I have worked on in school and out of school has loved my work. (Please don't think I'm concieted) I've gotten a lot of return clients and the students in my class would request tradeouts with me so I have felt like my work is good. My instructor has paid me huge compliments and she won't let any other student touch her.
Now my problem is this. Working in the clinics I have had two reviews saying that my work was too slow. That kind of bothered me and freaked me out. One, ok, they just prefer different work. Two, maybe there is something to it. Some have commented that I wasn't going quite deep enough. I go deep. DT was my last class so I'm pretty fresh on it. I think that some people feel like you have to hurt them to get results and I try to hurt people as little as possible. The whole point is to help them right? I LOVE trigger point therapy and a lot of my personal clients come specifically for trigger point work and spot work. My frustration with the student clinic I guess is that all you have to go off of for a history is their intake which is not very thorough and half the time you get people on the table and they say "oh yeah by the way." I try to ask them about injuries, specific problem areas etc. Most of them say just a full body relaxing massage or just my back or something like that. I ask for feedback during the massage, pressure, tenderness etc. I like to take a detailed history and really figure out what they need but half the people are late for their massage and there is no time. So basically my question is what can I do about this? Are people just dumb and don't communicate their needs or do I need to improve on my pace or depth or what. I know people should come and get what they want but I'm not one of those people who does deep tissue because I want to see how deep I can go before they can't take it any more. The slow think kind of threw me off too. I know some mts students start off working way too fast so maybe these people who only get a $25 student massage are used to people going fast and deep and that's what they think they need. I don't know. This is really long sorry. I just had to get it off my chest and hear from some professionals.

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Everyone is going to have their opinion and preference on massage.
When I first when to the therapist I use now, she felt really slow too. I find myself now, slowing down more than I did before in my own work and liking her tempo, but initally I thought she was too slow.

One difference with student clinic vs. being in the work environment - most of the time once you are out of school you don't get the feedback. When I was an instructor, I explained to the students that one of the purposes of the clinic appointments were to get experience with different bodies and different issues.
Some people can take more pressure than others. I can tell you there have been many times someone has told me to go deep and I have, but it was too deep for them. They don't really know what they are asking for sometimes.
Others can take as much pressure as you can dish out. Eventually, you will be able to know which client is which. Some people like a very slow pace and others will like it faster. All a personal preference and nothing to take personal.

I am sure you are doing an excellent job. Not every person you provide massage for will like you. Most won't provide feedback, even if you ask. There have been many conversations on the board about that.
The student clinic clients also have to remember that a student is working on them. It is not the time to go and get a reduced rate massage it is a time for them to provide input and their bodies to help you learn and practice. This can be cause for the tardiness too. They just look at it as a cheap massage - not as what it truly is.

Hang in there. Listen to the comments, but know that things like depth and speed preferences are very different from person to person.

Have Fun!
 


With the above being said, take this opportunity to play with your tempo and speed. At home, try to give a massage that is realllly slooooow - all of your different strokes. One of the benefits of school is allowing yourself to learn and that includes the clinic. You are a student. Take advaneforum.xxxe of it. Also, read through the SOAP notes for your clients and see if you're able to gleen any information from them. *I am assuming your school's clinic takes SOAP notes.*
 


Thank you both for the encouragement. I guess I needed a reminder not everyone will be satisfied. Masthera I'm glad you mentioned the feedback. I hadn't thought about not getting feedback after school. We do use SOAP notes but only a few of the instructors emphasize it so alot of the SOAPs aren't very thorough. A lot of vague descriptions like worked on trigger point in shoulder. No muscles or how the tissues responded etc. My instructor made a point of us being very specific so I always seem to run out of room. I am still a student and in 4 weeks I'll start my internship at a chiro office. (Yikes!) I'm a little nervous about that too it will be a totally different environment. I'm really excited though because I think I will learn a lot.
 


By going slow you are waiting for the tissues to relax and respond to your touch... by going fast you are potentially going to be too vigorous. I can't stand a massage when it is too fast, I can't get into that relaxed mode. I had a hard time when I was in school learning to slow down because I always felt rushed to fit in the entire routine. I have honestly dropped about half of it and added other things that I have learned so it is totally different from what I originally learned.

As for pressure, drop your table one more notch... lunge and lean into your client, that way it will feel a lot deeper to them and you can get a lot more leverage. My pressure was nothing to what it is now, especially after I learned myofacial release. But Deep tissue sometimes isn't deep if you aren't applying yourself into the body. Talk to one of your professors to look at your body mechanics to see how you can increase your pressure beyond what I have mentioned above. Sometimes it is really simple. Othertimes they are just sick and don't understand that if I go any deeper I will break something... Otherwise known as being run over by a Mack Truck Massage....
 


I think that it is unusual to find a student who gives a slow massage. The clients at the clinic are probably not used to it. SLOW is usually much more relaxing and more effective.

Student clinic is a good environment to get accustomed to working on different bodies and learning about different aspects of the massage business while in a supervised setting. In many ways it does not reflect what is in the real world.

You will not be getting reviews when you're out in the real world. People will either rebook or they won't. If they don't rebook, it's not necessarily because they didn't like your massage. In the beginning you will wonder what you are doing wrong. It most likely has nothing to do with the quality of your massage. It will take time to get over this.

Meanwhile, don't get too hung up on the negative comments in clinic. Don't let it rattle your confidence. Try giving the massage a little faster and see what happens. Talk with your clinic supervisor or your instructor about these comments about going to slow.

It's good that you want to look at the negative comments to see how you can improve, but just don't let it shake your confidence. You will not be the right therapist for every person. Concentrate on the people who LOVE your work. There will likely be far more of them than there are ones with negative comments.
 
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    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  43. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  47. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  49. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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