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Hi !

I am a total newbie in the chair massage bussinness. And what is the worse thing ( or maybe is the best thing) that in my country (croatia) this type of massage is totally unknown.(-" what the heck is chair massage?!")
I would like to lease a space in the shopping mall ( as I've seen you guys have in the USA ) but the mall manager doesn't find it "attractive enough".
Is there any idea which I can use to pursue a little bit more , like WIFM principle?
[Namely, he wanted to rent the place to some attractive service, like "nail bar".
As the space would be very attractive for onsite masage( due to a huge people circulation)I have to find the proper words and way to explain him all the benefit , but he stills ask - what is in it for me ( for mall , in general).
I need a good proposal , written well!
Any idea, please?

Thanks a lot

Warmest regards

Nitta
 


My first thought is that if he thinks a nail bar will be "attractive" and "making the mall a better place" then I'm not really sure what his criteria are. A nail bar will be very stinky and create fumes that will not be fun to be around.

With a massage chair, you will be making people VERY happy AND healthy. Maybe you should offer to give him a 10 min chair massage so he can see whats so great about it. Also you may want to prepare a "benefits of massage" list, with references. It sounds like he needs to be educated on the benefits of massage!

I could maybe say more, but I need to know more what this guys wants. "Whats in it for him?" The rent money! I don't get it, please explain.
 


It will increase the amount of time people spend in the shopping mall. Instead of going home when they get overwhelmed and tired, they get a massage, feel better, continue shopping and spend more money in his mall.
 


shivashiva , thanks on the replay.

Namely, he is the project manager of the shopping mall and he is decision maker of the renting space available at the mall.

He liked to have an explanation on what exactly the chair massage is and
why do I think that my offer is more attractive that the one of the owner of the nail bar.

My explanation in the first place were concentrated on the benefits of chair massage ( stress relief, etc).
But he wanted to know why he should give me the space instead to the
other renter ( the rent fee is the same for all the participants- so, I need to make a good persuasion to make him believe that the chair massage is the best contents and interesting potential for the biggest mall in the country.

What would you write in such an proposal? What would be yours best arguments?Although I don't know at the very moment how would people react on massage in the open space, but I hope and believe! it could work!

Thank you !

Nitta
 


Thanks, Chris!

I did mention him that too, but he says my arguments are not impressive enough :?
 


Personally I hate Nail Salons and I think the smell of them is very offensive. I would want to be as far away from it as possible if I were in the mall. If he is not receptive to the "massage is healthy and wonderful and will make people more relaxed, and open and thus open to shopping more and spending more money" then I would really focus on the fact that a Nail place is really going to drive people away (those who aren't getting their nails done) because of the toxic air and fumes.

It sounds like this is a hard man to work with! Even though having the massage in the mall sounds great, do you really want his guy to be your landlord? Anyway, seems like a tough situation. Good luck!
 


here we have small shops in the main walkway of the mall called 'kiosks' (sp?)

is it possible for you to set up in the walkway like that (less rent, more visibility). the ones here have little desk-type things that they sell retail items but it could be very do-able.

here's a site that might help you: http://www.kioskexpert.com/
good luck!
 


Nitta77,
Here's a couple online articles that might help you out.

Businessman Wants to Rub Shoppers the Right Way CNY - Business Journal:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3718/is_200009/ai_n8913266

Massage for the Masses - David Palmer, Chair massage, and Zubio:
http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/FebMar2006/masses.html
 


Although I don't know at the very moment how would people react on massage in the open space

I suggest doing some hands on research to find out :-) Have you done chair massage in public in any other areas? Outdoor markets, festivals, events, private parties, etc? How did it go? The answer depends on your culture. In our culture, people can be afraid of touch, especially in front of others. At the same time, they don't necessarily want to be touched by a stranger behind closed doors.

After you find out, then you have to start emphasizing the positives and addressing the negatives. Pay attention to what Zubio.com is doing; they spend a lot of time thinking about these things and coming up with possible solutions. And I can almost guarantee David Palmer would be willing to talk to you about the issues you're facing.

Have you been able to give the manager a massage yet?

Have you looked at other places to do your massage instead of this mall?
 


To EgoMagickian

Thanks for the tips! It is hard to say how the people would react.
We are all different, some of us are afraid of touch, ashamed to be touched in the public and some are very open to the massage , generally.
I tried to convince the manager for a quick fix, but he refused ( lack of time was his excuse ?!).
I received my chairs 2 weeks ago so I didn't have any opportunity to present the massage at some other place.
We do have a Christmas Fair starting next week in December, but I'm not sure to rent the space there, while this one is visited by parents with the small kids and the rent is very high ( about 2500 $ for 2 weeks). I think I couldn't "cover" my self with such a high rent.
If I understood you well, you think I should mail to David Palmer about my issue? You think he might be interested in the someone on the old continent trying to spread the mouth of word for the business he invented?
If he only would... :)
Thanks a lot once again! It is such a pleasure to find out that someone on the other part of the world cares...

to maestra

I already read the articles before, but anyway thanks a lot !

to making a change

Thank you for the link! I asked exactly for something like that in the main walkway, but he is not so open for my proposal. He said that our people are not used for sth like that in the open space and that nail bar is something more common and usable for his mall!
:cry: :cry:
 
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  38. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  39. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  45. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  48. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
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