Oils to Avoid - Diabetes

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Hi. Does anyone know the oils to be avoided for use on someone who is diabetic? I can only find angelica but need at least 5 for an assessment I'm doing!! I've searched through the internet but can't find any others and angelica isn't one of the oils on the list we use.
Thanks for any help.
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Hi was wondeing if anyone had given an sromatherapy massage to anyone with diabetes? does any one know if there are any oils that should be avoided for diabetes? any advise would be great
 
can add cinnamon (bark and leaf) to that, as it mimics insulin - can only be taken if insulin level is well-monitored
 
You could try researching which oils (if any) have hyperglycemic or hypoglycemic effects, i guess that could be argued as a contraindication in diabetes. I'm a type 1 diabetic though and so far have never had a problem using any essential oils (although i've not tried angelica admittedly).
 
You know, I have always found it strange that Diabetics can be contraindicated because of their sugar levels.

I have a diabetic son and he enjoys been massaged and having Reiki done, I monitor his sugars regulary (sometimes up to 10 times a day) and I have yet to see any evidience of Reiki or massage making his sugar levels rise or fall. The only evidence of this happening is eating or exercising.

I do wonder if it a myth now that Reiki and Massage effect diabetics.

Angel x
 
Thanks for your very insightful input, angel

Also, my teacher has told us today that the 'powers that be' have decided that as of this Septemnber, and for the purpose of teaching Complementary Therapy degree - diabetes and epilepsy are no longer considered contra-indications, merely things to take into account
 
In my experience massage does effect diabetes.....in a POSITIVE way! When my legs and feet are massaged the pain reduces and they don't feel numb, increased circulation, a bit of an issue for diabetics as i'm sure you know.
Also think of how stressful living with diabetes, especially type 1, is.....Reiki and Massage are great stress relief. To be honest i've found alot of people even in healthcare often really don't grasp whats involved with diabetes and there is alot of misinformation about.
As for cinnamon, well the spice is used in Ayurveda to lower blood sugar levels and there is research to back up that use. To me that INDICATES it's use, obviously that does increase the risk of hypo's, but then so does taking insulin or the meds.......it's not rockt science, if a hypoglycemic oil/herb is used that you are not used to, test your blood a bit more frequently.
That sarcasm wasn't directed at anyone in this thread by the way, just at the stupidity of courses telling people not to use something that could aid a person with a condition. After all, healing is what it's all meant to be about.
 
Hi, I know this is abit of an old thread but I just wanted to add something



See, I think this is a shame because, like Chole, I'm Type 1 diabetic and I love holistic treatments. In fact, the reason I got into holistic therapies was because of my diabetes, as away of relaxation and maintaing a positive mental wellbeing. I've never experienced any adverse reaction to my sugar levels because of a treatment.

Chole is very right in stating that there is a heck of a lot of misinformation about diabetes and I think it's a great shame that some courses seem to make students scared of going anywhere near a diabetic. From my perspective as a T1, you could have 20 people in a room, 19 without diabetes and one with T1, and that one person with T1 is actually the fittest and healthiest person of the lot.

Obviously diabetic complications are an issue, if you have nerve or kidney damage, etc. This does need to be thoroughly researched by the therapist and also by the person who wants the treatment, as of course, diabetes is a self-managing condition so I would expect anyone with it to educate themselves and try to personally find out what is suitable for them and what isn't. You'll find that most diabetics coming for a treatment, however, probably take very good care of themselves otherwise they would bother with holistic therapies.

Here's a good example, I went for a Reiki tretment and my local college where they teach VTCT Reiki. I was told I couldn't have an official treatment as I was an insulin-user and it went against VTCT health & safety rules. OK, so they're worried someone will have a hypo, blame the Reiki and sue them. However, the tutor (who had no personal problem with treating diabetics - and was Type 2 herself) said she'd let me have an "off the record" treatment and put me with a student who was obviously not happy to treat me (everything she'd been taught so far was to stay away from them thar diabetics, lol).

TBH, it was the worse and least relaxing Reiki session I'd ever had simply because the therapist was tense and worried that I was going to black out and become unconcious at any minute. I kept feeling the need to reassure her and make gestures to show that I was, in fact, still alive (ie, clearing my throat, adjusting my shoulders, etc) it was just plain daft. At the end of the treatment she told me there were moments when she was really worried because I wasn't moving. So even despite my best efforts, she was still obviously very nervous about performing the treatment and I personally got zero out of it.

Obviously as a therapist you want to be cautious and not take risks, so I can understand concern in regards to diabetes and obviously avoid oils that could have any negative potential and make sure your client is not suffering any related complications (not saying they can't be treated but any situation where extra due care is needed, etc) but for the most part I don't see any problems in treating someone with diabetes.

Angel - It's lovely to hear your son gets a lot of positive benefits from treatments.

xx
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  47. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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