Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

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There are several things I'm going to touch on, so I'm not sure where would be the best place to post this.

I'm a licensed aesthetician, and I enjoy the massage aspect the most out of everything within my scope of practice. This has left me feeling like I've chosen the wrong path, so I've decided to look into going to massage school.

The downside is that I have PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome). This was something I struggled with in aesthetics school because of my excess male pattern facial hair, as well as my excess body hair. I'm not talking a few stray black coarse hairs, but full-on male pattern body hair. So to say I'm self-conscious would be an understatement. In aesthetics, it got to a point of where I didn't have to regularly be touched by others because I was doing my clinical work on outside clients, but massage seems different.

I've searched the forums on body hair, and how most MTs don't care about body hair at all, but this seems to mainly be in regards to men. What about excess hair when it's on women, especially face, back, and stomach? I've got a serious problem that can only be solved by taking some heavy duty and adrenal gland straining medications that aren't suitable for me at this current time (trying to conceive).

I can and do wax my body (or have it waxed), but the hair has to have time to grow. Being as I will be in school for months, this would be pretty difficult to do without having that awkward growing phase.

Am I just letting this hold me back for no good reason? Most of the people I went to school with were semi-professional about my man hair growth, but it was awkward at the first touch and I could feel their apprehension.

Also, what are you experiences with women with PCOS in practice? I see discussion of doing abdominal massage. This is something I would dread and agonize over, not because of my jiggly hairy bits, but because of the potential for excruciating pain due to enlarged and awkwardly placed ovaries. I know for the sake of others learning, I might just have to grin and bear it. Can I opt out of certain areas being treated on my own body while in school? My aesthetics instructors really didn't respect my boundaries when it came to saying, "Hey, I feel very uncomfortable doing/with this."

Whew, sorry so long. Thanks in advance!
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

1. Really, really, really, your hair isn't a problem. As a woman (with average hair growth) who does not shave, I can attest to the fact that nobody gives a crap. All your classmates will be focused on trying to learn whatever techniques they're being introduced to, not the interesting features of your anatomy. If nothing else, you can educate them so that they recognize what they're dealing with when they later have a client with PCOS.

2. As far as abdominal massage goes, if you have a contraindication, your instructor will ensure that nobody works on you in ways that would be harmful. I have a ligament problem that meant some of the joint mobilizations we did in class would have been harmful to me. Not only was it good for my classmates to learn what NOT to do, our instructor taught the class alternative treatments for someone with a similar condition.

3. For the question you didn't ask: if you have really bad periods, go ahead and explain to your instructors as soon as you begin classes. They will be much happier knowing what is going on with you each month, rather than wondering why the heck you're not engaged at your usual level and/or worrying about your health.

Good luck! I have a friend who also started as an aesthetician, and while she did both for a while, she now focuses entirely on massage and is much happier. :)

Kat
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

peacherine said:
Am I just letting this hold me back for no good reason?

Absolutely. Your hair will not make a difference. If anyone is squeamish about a hairy woman it will be a fantastic chance for them to get over it because they will experience it in their professional practice.

What you say about your aesthetics teacher not respecting your boundaries makes me sad. In massage school your teacher should be well trained in ethics and respecting people's boundaries, although of course a classroom environment is not the same as a therapeutic environment and you will have to speak up for yourself. If it's causing you excruciating pain, you shouldn't have to endure it so someone else can learn. On the other hand, if there are times when there is no pain present (though the touch it self may feel uncomfortable) I would suggest you go through this as a learning process for yourself. If you are going to work on the abdomen's of your clients, it will help you a lot to know how it feels in your body. I see again and again in massage classes that the areas that students don't want to have worked on for themselves are the areas where they are lacking in skill and confidence when working on clients.

If you have areas you don't want to have worked on due to pain, just discuss this with your teachers and classmates. That shouldn't be hard to work around.
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

Thank you both for your insightful answers. I wholeheartedly appreciate them.

I've had a lot of internal conflict about this hair issue. Aesthetics school was traumatic for my self-esteem. I tried to use my condition as a learning tool, explaining that they definitely will have clients with PCOS. Lo and behold, there was one client who came in for a facial, and after she had left the clinic floor, my classmate said, "Oh my God. That was so disgusting. That woman had a BEARD!" This was just my personal experience in school, and it has me a little spooked.

This time around, I am extensively reviewing, researching, and interviewing schools in order to avoid my experience in aesthetics. I've been focusing on schools that require things like letters of recommendations, interviews, essays, proof of professional massages, etc, to make sure that the school is also being selective and not just interested in money.

I think, as my husband says, I just need to accept it and move on. Now that I've typed it out and shared it with other people, it seems silly that I'm letting something like body hair keep me from pursuing my dreams. Fear and insecurity in my own body probably won't be too helpful if I'm trying to go out there and massage someone else's body anyway.

Thanks for the note about the periods. Mine can be bad and it hadn't crossed my mind to share what's happening with my classmates and instructors.
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

I just want to chime in and encourage you as well. Like the others said already, you need have no worry about body hair; my experienced was that the people who put themselves through massage school are those that are truly concerned with helping other feel good not only physically but mentally as well, and generally are, or become fascinated with the anatomy of the body. Massage school isn't about learning to rub on rich, beautiful people, but teaching the students what they need to know in order to help people of all types feel more comfortable in their bodies.

The school you choose should have a good ethics class that will help students, that may not be quite as aware of the different body types out there, learn how to sensitively work with folks who may present with different conditions whether they affect the bodywork, or not.

My own classroom experience; being part Italian I have no lack of body hair where I'd prefer not to, and never shave above my knees. One palpation class, I was the only person wearing shorts and we were working on the thigh muscles. Guess who got picked as the demo? The TA rolled my shorts up *really* high and proceeded to outline my muscles in colored markers. I could feel my face turning beat red, but when I got the courage up to open my eyes and peak, I saw everybody listening in raptured silence as she talked and some even taking pictures with their cell phones! Soon, my hairy legs took a back seat to my over blown pride in my leg muscles, lol! :grin:

You will see bodies of all types in massage school, and I have to say I never once felt like I or my body was being judged by anyone! I hope you will keep us updated in your journey. Best of luck!!! :smt006
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  47. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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