Review Kelly @ 3040 palstan

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What’s going on boys, I know I have been MIA for a few months but I started dating a girl 3 months back and am trying as hard as I can to stay faithful. The first month was the toughest because we didn’t have any sex and so I went to a few places including this one which I’ll tell you guys about. For now I am probably gonna stick to Semis after this till I am dating unless it’s a absolute must girl to see. Anywho this review will be a quick one. Just want to put it out there that I am in no way bashing this place or Kelly but this was my personal experience, so yours could be same, better or worse.

I called these guys up on a Wednesday because apparently there is a girl Eva who’s amazing that works there only on Wednesdays. On the phone she said yea come in and I said to her again I am looking for Eva is she there. So she asks me if I have been there before and I said yes I have. She says no problem we give you same service come in. At this point I knew Eva is not there but I had to get my freak on because it was almost 3 weeks of no fun. I went and was greeted by Kelly, at first glance not bad at all good body, looked young (she was Asian and maybe in her 30s) and she asks me how long I wana stay, now this is where I fucked up. I said an hour only because she seemed hot and like a few other places I have been to they give you a 15-20 massage and then the good part (also because hour was $60 and usually that means they are semi holistic or they do somewhat of a massage). Nope, after maybe 2 mins of giving me massage which was just touching me all over my back and legs she asks me what I wanted to do and I asked her what she offers she said you wana fuck me and I said yes I want to fuck you, she’s like okay how much you pay. Now usually I won’t mind paying $120-140 but because this girl didn’t do no massage whatsoever and not even 5 mins in to the hour she’s asking wtf I wana do I know I am not getting the full hour. So I said $100, she’s like oh honey pay me $120, I am like are you gonna take your mask off she’s like no, I am like $100, she’s like oh come on honey do $120 then I asked her if she would bbbj me and she said no. At this point I was about to give in but luckily she said ok that’s fine. She leaves and asks me to have the money ready, she comes back with a condom and asks me for the money this pissed me of the most because I am lying there butt naked and she wants me to get up and pay her first. To summarize it CBJ was for 20 seconds, riding was for about 30 seconds and then she asks you fuck me and ask me how I like missionary or doggie, I said let’s do mish first and then doggie she’s like ok. She was just lying there the usual dead fish and then maybe a minute in I couldn’t take it and said you know what fuck it let’s just finish it quick. So I did my fav move where I slide my hands down her ass to lift her ass and start pounding. As soon as I did she’s like oh baby you are to heavy and push’s me off. I am like wtf are you ok, she’s like yea I give you hand job. I was so pissed and frustrated but you can’t do anything about this. Surprisingly I was able to cum. All this lasted 20-25 mins including the shower. And then she didn’t come in the room.

service -4
Massage- 2
Face- mask was there but seemed good
Body- 7.5
Repeat - no

You know this girl can do a lot better if she was more service oriented or it could be she didn’t like me but whatever it was, I prefer not repeating if they fuck up first time unless they have a gem.

Anywho I am gonna make a list of places that I would personally avoid tomorrow and another list of places that I frequent and have not let me down. I know it’s a piss off when I am disappointed by going to a place and it’s not good or they do the B&S, so hopefully it will help as many people as possible because I know when I started this hobby I wasted a lot of time and money.
Good luck boys
 
… stick w DFK girls as per yer ID…. Much better time… :)

… both of u really did bad negotiation… she asked 2 fast, had lots time… usually I ask 4 bj or hj if they ask 2 much… then $$$ comes down bcuz they’d rather just fuck & get a bit more…:money

Shame u spent $60, made u hang in when yer feet wanted 2 run… 🏃‍♂️

Gd review dude… this gal nvr gonna b a gem …
 
Yea I got another embarrassing one that I have to write about. The thing is these girls do this every day and can tell when a guy is horny asf and since I haven’t been doing this long enough I fell for this shit but you know what that’s exactly how I am gonna learn from my mistakes. Also yea I mostly stick with DFK and or GFE girls but they are just so hard to find, and I like to TOFTT every now and then 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Yea I got another embarrassing one that I have to write about. The thing is these girls do this every day and can tell when a guy is horny asf and since I haven’t been doing this long enough I fell for this shit but you know what that’s exactly how I am gonna learn from my mistakes. Also yea I mostly stick with DFK and or GFE girls but they are just so hard to find, and I like to TOFTT every now and then 🤷🏻‍♂️
I’ve surprised girls a few times… I’m very quick tempered & angry when horny… 👿 … if they start messing w me, I kiss rm fee gbye & I walk… or … they fix their attitude…
  1. Im really, really sure another girl out there gonna help me
  2. I’m super nice till then, so they get shocked a bit… & give in
  3. Feels gd 2 walk out! Usually have gr8 time w next girl
… some girls no I’m xtc27, nvr gonna lemme walk, but usually I’m pretty anon… 🕵️‍♂️

Plan B! If u got firm Plan B, very easy to negotiate…. B4 any 💰 changes hands… personally, 1st time @ spa, go4 hh, not hr… u can xxtend if needed…

A gd long TDL… then u walk if something ain’t right… Plan c, plan d, arranged by proximity… ofc time ⌛ starts 2 run out, so plan b should b really solid…

… there are more GFE girls out there than u have time 2 visit… :hot
 
Sorry for your experience, but I could not help lol, because I've had the exact opposite to your experience, and not just because I am repeat. I had BBBJ first visit, not DFK, nor LFK, let's call it MFK lol Kelly is an absolutely gem, if you click with her. I've never known (until now) what she might be like otherwise, so now I really feel special (and scared all at the same time), especially because I consider myself ugly. She is a super sweetheart, I can't, or more like do not want to go into too much detail or else she will know who I am, and not sure she would appreciate it. I know she reads this place and will find this thread.

Kelly does not normally work Wednesdays, she covers for Eva who seems to be away a lot lately and might not even be working there now. Kelly normally works Ly Saturdays, of course she works other places too, and does other things as well, she's extremely intelligent, entrepreneurial, you don't want to be playing SPA Chess with her.

You have to trust me when I say there's a reason she ask's for tip up front and it's not what you think, and sorry again, I don't want to make it public, and besides at this point I doubt you care anyway. My advice with her is to take care of business before anything goes down, though this might not be the case for everyone working on other days at Ly.

Most Holistic places start at 80/hr and still many MPA's (younger) ask 120 on top for service you had, so Kelly was definitely not out of line here, and she will know absolutely for certain she was being fair in this case, this is not her first rodeo. 160 is for much older MILF pricing (in this area anyway). And as far as the massage goes, Kelly can be is as close to an RMT (for me anyway lol) as you will see at any non-legit SPA, in my opinion that's what set's this place apart from most, they have MPA's that can really do massage. You can see some MPA's are dressed in medical type garb, and I think it shows they are doing legit work too.

Perhaps the difference between you and I was, I gave her + 20 on top of the agreed price up front. Why? Because I always tip 20 + anyway, and if later I really did not like the service, I would just not tip. I would also never return as after no tip you never know what might happen. lol Unless you think GK is a possible item there is nothing missing from Kelly's menu, zero, zip, zilch, nada. I know for a fact the semi-holistic freaks would happily pay rm + 100 for just Kelly's DATY (They had BS too, but after the DATY they didn't remember a thing), and then they would tip large on top. There's also the possibility at play here = Kelly digs ugly guys like me, and you're too good looking of a dude.

Another thing is, they have a way of talking about you to each other and other places so you really want to be careful who and how you piss off people (not that you did here, I'm just saying). Likely you know what I mean but DM me for that if you care.

What’s going on boys,
Good luck boys
 
Sorry for your experience, but I could not help lol, because I've had the exact opposite to your experience, and not just because I am repeat. I had BBBJ first visit, not DFK, nor LFK, let's call it MFK lol Kelly is an absolutely gem, if you click with her. I've never known (until now) what she might be like otherwise, so now I really feel special (and scared all at the same time), especially because I consider myself ugly. She is a super sweetheart, I can't, or more like do not want to go into too much detail or else she will know who I am, and not sure she would appreciate it. I know she reads this place and will find this thread.

Kelly does not normally work Wednesdays, she covers for Eva who seems to be away a lot lately and might not even be working there now. Kelly normally works Ly Saturdays, of course she works other places too, and does other things as well, she's extremely intelligent, entrepreneurial, you don't want to be playing SPA Chess with her.

You have to trust me when I say there's a reason she ask's for tip up front and it's not what you think, and sorry again, I don't want to make it public, and besides at this point I doubt you care anyway. My advice with her is to take care of business before anything goes down, though this might not be the case for everyone working on other days at Ly.

Most Holistic places start at 80/hr and still many MPA's (younger) ask 120 on top for service you had, so Kelly was definitely not out of line here, and she will know absolutely for certain she was being fair in this case, this is not her first rodeo. 160 is for much older MILF pricing (in this area anyway). And as far as the massage goes, Kelly can be is as close to an RMT (for me anyway lol) as you will see at any non-legit SPA, in my opinion that's what set's this place apart from most, they have MPA's that can really do massage. You can see some MPA's are dressed in medical type garb, and I think it shows they are doing legit work too.

Perhaps the difference between you and I was, I gave her + 20 on top of the agreed price up front. Why? Because I always tip 20 + anyway, and if later I really did not like the service, I would just not tip. I would also never return as after no tip you never know what might happen. lol Unless you think GK is a possible item there is nothing missing from Kelly's menu, zero, zip, zilch, nada. I know for a fact the semi-holistic freaks would happily pay rm + 100 for just Kelly's DATY (They had BS too, but after the DATY they didn't remember a thing), and then they would tip large on top. There's also the possibility at play here = Kelly digs ugly guys like me, and you're too good looking of a dude.

Another thing is, they have a way of talking about you to each other and other places so you really want to be careful who and how you piss off people (not that you did here, I'm just saying). Likely you know what I mean but DM me for that if you care.
120 tip= CFS not outta line, but west end normally 100 & yes, younger gals 2… but haggling over 20 bucks, yeah, that’s where started going downhill… :money

… I can assure u, semi holistic phreaks not paying rm fee plus 100 fer DATY w Kelly…:lick

… glad 2 hear she can b fun… if she didn’t like him, she coulda just said hj only… mpas joke about this all the time, just stand back & jackhammer, no touchng… :cum1

Op had terrible time, regardless how he contributed … gr8 mpas don’t ever provide service this bad…:no

… seems like u get gr8 service f/ her … if u overtip! 💰

Some mpas, the flirting, touchng, kissing 💋 … starts when u enter the rm! This … as far from that as can b imagined…
 
120 tip= CFS not outta line, but west end normally 100 & yes, younger gals 2… but haggling over 20 bucks, yeah, that’s where started going downhill… :money

… I can assure u, semi holistic phreaks not paying rm fee plus 100 fer DATY w Kelly…:lick

… glad 2 hear she can b fun… if she didn’t like him, she coulda just said hj only… mpas joke about this all the time, just stand back & jackhammer, no touchng… :cum1

Op had terrible time, regardless how he contributed … gr8 mpas don’t ever provide service this bad…:no

… seems like u get gr8 service f/ her … if u overtip! 💰

Some mpas, the flirting, touchng, kissing 💋 … starts when u enter the rm! This … as far from that as can b imagined…

With all due respect, dudes in Sauga, at Full Season, Q Spa, Top health all paying rm + 100 semi-holistic and no bj. And places like Kings VIP. WJT are all trying to get rm + 120 CFS. I bet espa is the same

I never said OP did anything wrong whatsoever. And, I never over tipped, I only tip what I, and many others do = 60 rm + 100 + 20. Kelly has even given me tip money back, I don't ask why, but now I think it's so I don't come to places like this and write that I pay too much. I cannot explain what happened to OP, however I cannot sit by and not say anything either, especially because I have barely scratched the surface of Holistic health and in theory the OP has way more savvy and gumption than I do.

I seen what the OP said, and I'm in shock, never heard anyone say this type of experience there. The only thing people seem to complain about is there are some older MPA's working other days AND the biggest one, is the shower. There's only one shower, and it's by the back in the bathroom, a decent size and clean but most people do not like that arrangement. I was a bit surprised the OP not having such a good time, did not bring that up even.
 
She jewed this guy. If he's paying for a freakin hour, he obviously expects at least a 20-30 minutes massage. He paid that greedy and lazy ho $160 for 20 minutes!

Thanks for the honest review, not another shitty ad "review". I'm never going to this shithole.
 
@SuperSport see I read everything you said and I don’t wana repeat everything I already did in my review like this was my personal experience and I understand there is always 2 sides to the story which is why I said maybe she just didn’t like me, however, @xtc27 is right if she didn’t like me she wouldn’t have offered FS. In any case I am over the experience and moving on, only thing I would say is you mentioned I might piss off the wrong people, I am pretty sure these guys have better things to do than to go after me or other people who write reviews. Lastly remember I mentioned that others experience with her could be same, better or worse than mine, if even after that they still have a problem than that’s unfortunate.
 
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    💆‍♀💖Thirsty Thursday 💖 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville✨ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea — JBB Lulu, Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Sasa, Sara, Cici & Doris— ready to pamper you🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits🙌
  28. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years students girl Hannah, Queenie, pinky, Jenny, Sasha, Grace, Angela @6262 hwy 7 until #1 Vaughan, ☎️:905-851-4888
  29. SL West:
    💆‍♀💖Thirsty Thursday 💖 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville✨ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea — JBB Lulu, Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Sasa, Sara, Cici & Doris— ready to pamper you🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits🙌
  30. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 11 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, MALIYA, KIRAN, ANGEL, LUCY, ANGELINA, SABHA, NUR 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa♨️ ♨️♨️ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girl Mia big boobs 36 DD hot body slide😘 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa 😘can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking
  32. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Summer -🔥A sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  33. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl Mimi in today &Persian girl (Jasmine) in Friday and Saturday
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! ✅ Today🌸Alisa🌸Nina🌸Selina🌸Isabella🌸Aletta Call us ☎ 905 - 265 - 2158☎️ Your ultimate service awaits! ✨
  35. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Meet🌸LuLu🌸Luna🌸ValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  36. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 ☎ 437-688-2407 ☎ Thursday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & LINDA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. LINDA is slim to medium build & attractive Spanish hottie with big boobies, big ass & great services.
  37. Sunrise Health Centre:
    🫦 Yoyo, Noor & New Hot🔥 Girl Angela are here Today! 📞📲 (647) 325-8086 🫦 Yoyo is A Very HOT n' Sexy Asian. She will make your Day! 💄 Noor is a medium build Indian lady with nice services.💦 Angela is a Beautiful & Petite Young Chinese Girl 💄 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. 💋 They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded 🚶‍♀️🚶➡️ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  38. ASPA:
    𝗧𝗛𝗨𝗥𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Fox, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ FOX is 26 years old with 34C’s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO,medium build
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  40. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna😘- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️ FIONA, LUCY & CINDY. FIONA is new. Real pics. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese, Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎️416-988-2950
  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
    🫦 Nayla & Sasa are in today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 💄 Nayla is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. 💄Sasa is Young Pretty Chinese Girl 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Jenny, Part time Sexy Curvy Indian Sarah(8:30pm-11pm), Slim Petite Chinese Vivi
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet Vivian 22’s and young fun Ivy 30’s with big buttocks and 36DD, sweet GFE Ella and pretty Tina 30’s with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Suki😍is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa♨️ ♨️♨️ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girl Mia big boobs 36 DD hot body slide😘 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man.Lisa 😘can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday November 21, 2024, our attendants will be Ada 😍, Cici 😘, Mia 🥰, Vicky 🔥 and Lulu ❤️. Call 905-479-6668 for your own awesome experience!!
  50. HKWQ:
    Why are the shiatsu at Club Dynasty are so old but that place is still charging a premium for their service?
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