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Hi all, I have not posted for ages but I know I can count on you guys for some support. I am beating myself up (as usual). I am qualified in Swedish massage, Aromatherapy Massage, Hydrotherm Massage and IHM (and other stuff which is irrelevant at the moment). I have just done no hands massage - at the weekend. and I loved it. I had a client in today who presented with what sounded like muscle spasm and I thought no hands might be good for her. Did the treatment and she came down saying nothing had changed at all, although she did enjoy the massage. On closer questioning, she told me that she had actually fallen off a ladder shortly before the pains had started so I have suggested she goes to her gp for a check up before booking with our sports/injury therapist.

My problem is that I feel like crap cos I didn't "fix" her. I often feel like that and seem to be only good enough for the relaxing massages - I know my pressure is not light so that's not the issue. Hugs please??? feeling worthless!!
 
dont feel bad one cant fix what they dont know about she should have given you more imfo in the consultation im now a sports therapist and my consultation and firness asessment lasts about an hour and thirty mins
 
Hi Ambermoon
I am not a massage therapist so cant comment much on your post but just wanted to say dont beat yourself up too much. You cant "fix" everyone and you gave the person good advice by sending them for a check up. IMO the client should have told you about the accident before you started.
You are most certainly not worthless and not making this client feel better with one appointment does not make you so. Take a minute to think of all the people you have helped .

So a big cyber hug from me
Love and Light
Linda
 
Hi Amber,
only a caring therapist like you would reflect on yourself and criticise that much! Huge e-hug to you :-) massage is the appropriate / adequate manipulation of soft tissues no matter which technique you use ;-)
 
Hi Amber.

I am a No Hands massage Master Practitioner and have been using it for some years now. I can reassure you that No Hands, nor any other style of massage will always be able to 'fix' everything and I have also had clients who I have had to refer on because I could not help them.

Whilst it is, of course, important to be good at what you do, I think it is also important to be focused on the client here and now and the massage, and not the outcome.

I know that I am very good at what I do; I also know I cannot solve everyone's problem.

Falling off a ladder could cause injuries that a massage will not, in itself, heal. You will no doubt have had some impact on your clients healing process which may be easier and take less time because of your treatment.

Knowing when to refer on is as important as knowing how to massage well.
 
Come here, ambermoon! (A big hug...)
Now forget about it! It is not your business to fix anybody. Even if you could fix them completely, they will only allow you to fix them as much as they are ready for.

Don't carry this cross. It is not for you to carry. Everyone is on a journey of some sort. It is all perfection in action. However little or much they move forward is entirely interwoven into their personal quest.
You are perceiving your self as responsible for their chosen path. Hence feeling of cr*p. Lighten up deary!
 
Thanks for that Derek - I was kind of hoping you would post. I saw a post of yours about no hands massage from some time ago. I think my problem is that I don't know that I'm good at what I do and always doubt myself. I agree with all the posts about my client's healing etc not being my responsibility etc etc. However, she did not feel ANY benefit from the treatment at all. I was gutted! I know that I did the right thing in referring her to her gp in the first instance and that she has probably injured herself during the fall. I am also pleased that I opted for the no hands option rather than deep tissue which, I feel, might have made things worse - I do elemis deep tissue - all that elbow work really freaks me out a bit! No hands is so much nicer to do and to receive, I think. Anyway sorry for rambling on and thanks for all your support. I will try to lighten up! Its the self doubt that gets to me really!
 
Just to chime in what the others have said - you can't fix everyone. It can be disappointing to have a client say they feel the same. Massage is not always an instant fix. Also your client didn't give you the full information about what had happened. When a client tells me they have a particular ache or pain I always ask if they know what might have caused it or what they have been doing lately.

You did the right thing suggesting she sees her gp.

I am sure you have had many positive comments from other clients so think about that - they can't all be lying to you - lol.

Once you start feeling more confident about your treatments things like this won't phase you.
 
You can't 'fix' everyone, you actually can't 'fix' anyone, ever heard the saying 'the therapist is on the table/couch'? You can often facilitate what the person receiving the treatment is getting, but what they get is all dependant on what they are prepared to accept.

I remember seeing one client with a bad back for a couple of months, quite major improvements in her back/shoulders/neck/flexibility. She eventually told me the treatments weren't helping with her candida and that was the last I saw of her.

I'm always amazed at the people that come in, one shoulder up near their ear, all sort of twisted saying they did something to their neck, you work on them, shoulder comes down and they say 'it still hurts when I do this!' as they manage to get their left ear over their right shoulder.
 
I agree with what Cola is saying. I tend to agree that we are facilitating what the person receives but how they accept it is another story!

Recently i have seen quite a few clients who want quick fixes, who want their problem solved in one treatment and even when they are feeling lots of benefits from the treatment, it hasn't fully resolved their problem and so they are dissapointed. Yet, others are understanding that it is a process and glad that it has helped provide some level of relief.

It is disheartening when a client turns round and says they haven't felt any different, especially when you as a therapist know how wonderful and beneficial massage is. I also think it can be a knock to the confidence and have found myself reminding myself that everyone accepts the treatment differently.

Am sending you a big hug ambermoon as have been on the receiving end of comments myself and know it can sting. As Essence says, remember all those positive comments you have received and remember how many people appreciate the service you have to offer.
 
Hello again, Ambermoon 2 and you are welcome.

I do agree with all the comments about how we are only facilitators and the client will take what they are able to take from your massage, and remember Gerry Pyves telling us as much. But, I also know how you feel and have to admit that I am disappointed if the client doesn't feel much better, too! The biggest lesson I had to learn was not to be upset when, after what I thought was a magnificent massage and I asked the client how they felt, they'd say, 'ok', or, 'fine'!! Some people are so out of touch with their bodies that they don't know what they feel and others just can't say how they feel.

Anyway, remember to be guided by your hara, feel grounded in your sole, fall gently, but deeply, and go with the flow.

Don't seek perfection, just love what you do.

And if I ever get to County Durham, I'll drop by for one of your lovely massages and put your mind at rest!
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Doris ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, ANGELINA, MEERA, NISHA, AMANDA, MIMI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 32 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : LALA,[/color 19Yrs young & beautiful petite, pretty, baby faced Japanese, 5โ€™2โ€ 90Lbs B Cup, bbbj, rim. Lala is energetic, fresh, beautiful & innocent, makes your heart beat. Beauty and youth can conquer everything. Highly recommended ๐Ÿ‘ SUKI, baby face student, nice all natural C Cups, short 5โ€™2โ€, sexy ass,
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki 30โ€™s open mind slime and young fun Selina with curves body 30โ€™s , pretty GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & *New Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian
  47. Mephistopheles:
    Where is milf mimi working, a little crazy lady.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Lisa & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice boobs, nice massage, incredible services.
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