hunting in china

[ScreamEmoGirl!]

This thread has touched upon the dangers and benefits of the Chinese KTV. Therefore, I would highly recommend the following excellent post - which I just happened upon tonight - to any mongers seeking further information; also, a comparison of KTV/sauna/BBS pros and cons:

http://www.worldsexguide.com/forum/showpost.php?p=724840&postcount=59

Zhugege, has done an excellent job in highlighting the pitfalls for KTV officianados. Read and learn!!

a.t.

 

[Trini-HaitianGrl81]

It was difficult to leave that situation, but the girls of Shanghai have eased my pain just a little LOL

Fluky

 

[insider]

I have gone back to her every night thus far./QUOTE]

My goodness, man. Your family might have to send out a search party for you, or put your face on a milk carton. It sounds incredible. You won't want to leave the place

 

[eclipse dkm]

Good to hear that you're having a good time. As I said in my previous post, KTVs can be a fun experience, but its best to go with a group. The Hotel looks good, I'll keep it in mind when I visit Hangzhao.

 

[Jolly Rancher <3]

Actually, before this post I had no idea what a KTV bar was. After reading the posts and doing my own internet search, I totally agree and am avoiding the KTV.

I am at a hotel right now in Hangzhau that has probably one of the best sauna/massage facilities in all of China. All the girls are very young (19 - 23) and very pretty (on my scale all 8's and 9's). They are all on the slim to pettie build, so if you like big girls, or super big tits this place is not for you. The price was just increased to 820RMB, but if you are a hotel guest you can get the girl for 760RMB.

If you ever get the chance to visit Hangzhao please check out the world trade center hotel. www.wtcgh.com It is also know as the Zhejiang Narada Grand Hotel.

The place has 5 star facilities (much better that what I saw at Bao Ann) and 5 star service from the girls. One girl said I was too big and did not want to take me inside of her after my hour was almost finished. She jerked me and I came, but I complained and they took me to another floor, called out all the girls from their rooms and let me pick. I picked a stunner. She could easily have been an actress in another life. Her number is #27. I got another hour - on the house. I have gone back to her every night thus far.

Fluky

 

[chefjoezieger]

You're a braver monger than I to be considering venturing into a Chinese KTV by yourself. I've been a couple of times with work colleagues/associates but would never attempt it alone. Are you sure you really want to do this? Why not stick to the sauna/massage places?

Plaboy accurately discussed the goings-on at a KTV in simple, easy-to-understand terms below. Honestly, it sounds great. I would like to visit one alone and do the very thing you're suggesting. But There are just too many potential problems and opportunity to be ripped-off for my liking.

These places are really for groups of friends or businessmen to spend time talking with pretty young girls. Where the cost can be picked up by the company as an entertainment expense and nobody is really thinking much about how much the drinks are. Entertainment, companionship, drinks with friends and singing are the main reasons these places are frequented. The sex is often just icing on the cake. Also, safety in numbers. A group of five businessmen isn't 5 x less likely to get ripped-off by an unscruplious establishment than you going alone; the group's probably 50 x less likely!

Primary concern on these occasions is to not be seen as stingy in front of colleagues/co-workers/suppliers/foreign customers etc. Extravegance is part of the occasion in these informal work gatherings. If someone gets laid at the end of the night, it's a bonus. I'm not keen on paying top dollar to spend time talking to a girl and buying expensive drinks for hours when I'm alone and just after one thing.

Best scenario is you'll put yourself in a very vulnerable position and end-up paying a *lot* of money at a reputable place for the same thing you'd get at one of the popular clubs discussed on this board. Worst scenario -- and a very likely one -- is that they'll see you coming; you'll be hit with a Y5,000 bill for a few drinks and some chat with a girl who promises a lot but delivers nothing. You won't have any back-up and will be like a lamb to the wolves, just having to pay whatever you're charged.

That said, I am biased by my own personal preferences and you are probably more savvy at these types of places than I will ever be. I hold a infinitely higher level of trust and regard for my financial and personal safety at unclean, dingy BBS shops for the lone visitor, than a KTV establishment. At least there, everything is out in the open. What you see, and what you're provided with is what exactly what you get and pay for (even if, quite often, that is not very much!).

I wish you luck and hope to hear a report of your successful visit. Have fun, but please make sure to stay safe; and the best way to do that is to avoid potentially unpleasant situations in the first place. With all the KTV horror stories I have read about, IMHO, like Craigslist without a credible first-hand recommendation from a fellow monger, it's simply not worth the risk.

a.t.

 

[postal p]

This helps a lot. Just a few more questions.

1. Any KTV you recommend in the Pudong area
2. Any KTV you recommend anywhere around Shanghai.
3. I will be alone so how much should I plan to spend to see a line up and have a girl for takeout?

My goal is to go there, have a few drinks, sing a song and barfine the girl and take her back to my hotel. I hear it's about 800-1500rmb. Does that include the barfine?

Thanks,
Fluky

 

[anant]

Visits to Kateoke can be fun when with a group with at least one Chinese speaking person. Here's a basic rundown: You go rent a room, order drinks, girls come by and you select a girl or girls to sit with you, the entertainment starts (kareoke). You can talk and play with the girl in the room (but nothing kinky). If you want to take the girl back to your room, you then pay a fee (for short time or long time).
Hope that this helps.

 

[Sellasie]

Really curious to know what is a KTV and where I can go to try out this service. Someone told me KTV stands for Kareoke TV, but I have no idea what this means either.

It is a bar girls, a club manager, a model for a store? Are these girls you can pay for sex?

Any information you could share is appreciated. I am going to be in Pudong and Hangzhou the first half of February and would like to try a KTV if I only know what they are

 

[Marie112626]

I neglected to write that I offer my opinion with the greatest respect and mean no offense. Obviously I do no know the full situation so it is very difficult to make broad judgements. There are so many ways this girl could/can complete the transaction without you needing to be involved.

It just seemed so unnecessary to spend that much money and then hope to receive some return on the investment. There doesn't appear to be much upside even if all goes to plan. And if the girl is genuine, she will feel bad and uncomfortable at being in your debt (literally and figuratively) for your generosity. Nice girls do not want to feel beholden to a strange foreign man and golddiggers are always unwelcome. If you're well-off and have loads of disposable money to splash around I guess it (the purchase) won't mean as much as if you're watching your pennies a little more closely.

If you're looking for something short-term with a local girl and you've got the ability; and are able to obtain some fake qualifications (even better if you have the real thing) try picking up some part time English teaching classes. The office girls will all be in their early 20s, first year out of uni, and almost-always are single. Try an English Corner at a university. Look online and show up. I haven't done it myself but I have friends who have and they do well for their trouble.

I don't have the time or inclination to do so myself, so I prefer the services of local BBS. I read once that a man visiting a BBS/sauna/KTV etc. does not pay for sex; rather he pays to be able to walk out the door afterward with no further committment or obligation...

I guess it depends what you're after. If you know what you're looking for, and are in China, you've come to the right place!

Best of luck,

a.t.

 

[Joann]

OK, OK, I get it. Glad I asked.

One thing I would like to hear - All the action you guys talk about. I have had some difficulty getting close to that. I just don't see the cnances to meet all the girsl who are wating in line, etc.

I am a tall, young 40-something. Any advice?

 

[gavilan_rood]

This sounds like a lame excuse. Sunning and other big electrical retailers have branches all over the city. This girl could easily visit one and buy her video camera rather than ask a guy she's had two dates with. She's never heard of Taobao? Or the free delivery most stores here offer? Her family or long-term friends couldn't pay and collect the item for her?

No honest, self-respecting girl would accept such an expensive gift from practically a stranger under these circumstances. An honest girl would not even ask such a favour to begin with.

I agree with broilator and hunterinbeijing. Think of all the expensive dinners, gifts, or sauna/BBS outings you could have with that money. We're not talking a few hundred RMB here.

I can't believe you're actually considering buying it for her. I think it will only feed her greed and in a few weeks' time you'll be considering whether to a) throw more good money away when she wants "X" consumer item; or b) write-off the video camera and cut your losses.

How much money are we talking about here?

a.t.

 

[Wowshi]

Ditch her. This is a gold digger. Next thing she asks will be a cellphone or an apartment. And you're not the only one she is "dating". Trust me.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Are you sure that you live in Beijing and not in shanghai? Anyway, forget this girl (she's probably shanghainese) and look for a less demanding option. There are already enough others out there spoiling the scene.

 

[Thanh Truc K]

well this is interesting. i never had a girl ask me for anything much but dinners.
there are 2 or 3 types of girls here bj(note the acronym?)

1. want gifts
2. dont want gifts
3. are equal
4. buy things for you. (the best)

in my opinion is what you should do is ask her to give you the money first then you pick it up. but if you really want to give it to her as a gift. then give it to her.

as long as you dont really care about the money. then use it as leverage to give you some...

make up some lame excuse about how you forgot or couldn't carry it with you that day(on the next date) because you got some emergency call and forget it at home/office/wherever and can give it to her later.

how long have you been here?

 

[jvjonster]

Looking for advice from the team here.

I recently met a very sweet and beautiful girl, student. I am an older foreign man living and working here. We met for coffee and I finally hinted at an arrangement. She said this was not for her. But she accepted my offer of a second date.

On the second date I took her to a nice dinner and provided some fairly nice gifts. She thawed, had a good time and said she felt she could "trust" me.

When I e-mailed her to ask for a third date, she e-mailed back a jpg of a digital camcorder she wants me to get for her. She said she would repay me, but she just wants the favor of me getting it as she lives far from downtown. I of course replied that I would get it, but that I could not accept her repayment. My gift to her.

So we are on for next week. My question is, how do I make sure does not grab and go? If I give it to her right away, she might. If I wait, she may think I am not really serious, or that I am just using the gift to buy her.

What is the best approach?

Hoping for help from the seasoned vets.

 

[JC Rules!]

I'd like to share my experience here.
i just look on the 1000's of free websites and try to start talking to girls in different parts of china and start using msn but many people here in China use QQ so it is a useful tool.

from there you can move on to light conversations to see more about the chick and see if shes serious or fucking around. most are after a husband since that this country has a serious mind for family. thats ok.

anyone about 27-34 is going to be seeking a husband.
under that or over is not going to be too interested because they already have had it or dont want it anymore.

regardless, use your sense and be polite with them always. eventually, they will drop the "im a traditional girl" talk and show their true face.

Guys!! move here. and yellow fever will be yours for the taken.

chinese guys hate foreigners because there are fewer women in china then men and if we come here, the girls go fucking crazy for us.

freebies galore. just have to wine-dine them for a bit.