HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

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Hi, I am in a bit of a bind, and may be making a mountain out of a mole hill, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Long story as short as possible: I am just newly out of school and newly licensed, and have accepted (but not signed a contract yet) a one day event job for post-event sports massage at a 10k race. I am bringing my own table. The event is in 5 days (this Saturday), and I was offered the job a week ago today. Two days after I was offered the job, I emailed my contact person to ask her if the event tent would be set up on pavement or grass. No response. I asked again on Friday. Today I got a response stating that we have to set up on grass, but that the surface is "even" and it shouldn't be a problem, but if it is, we can cross that road when we come to it.

I have put out a question to a couple of my former teachers as to whether setting up on grass is safe. Here are my concerns:
1) I am newly licensed, and while I do have insurance, it would be devastating to me if the table tipped over mid-massage due to instability on grass and a client was hurt or threatened to sue me.

2) If it has recently rained, the ground might be soft and the table legs could sink into the ground.

3) I am also not certain what kind of traction I'd have under my feet working on grass; it could be slippery.

My gut is telling me this is a bad idea, but maybe MT's working at this type of event do this all the time? I'd like to get by to my contact person and not leave her hanging, so I'd love your input! TIA. :)
 
HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

Even if a table is unstable, it's unlikely to actually TIP OVER. While it's not impossible, I think someone would have to jump on it pretty roughly, or you'd have to push it pretty hard (with someone on it) to tip it over. I think the biggest concern with table instability is that it might break if it's old or cracked, or if a very heavy person were to jump on it. You can also lower the table more than you usually would (especially since it's sports massage) to keep the center of gravity low to help ease this concern of yours.

Even if grass is a bit wet, it shouldn't be super slippery unless it's raining. Wear sneakers or some kind of shoe with some traction and you should be fine.

I do think you're over analyzing this. I did outdoor massage under a tree (no overhead structure for cover) in the grass by the beach for about 2 years on a regular basis, in a humid environment (sometimes lightly raining) barefoot most of the time and never had a problem.

An event like that should be fun! Let us know how it goes.
 
HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

shivashiva said:
Even if a table is unstable, it's unlikely to actually TIP OVER. While it's not impossible, I think someone would have to jump on it pretty roughly, or you'd have to push it pretty hard (with someone on it) to tip it over. I think the biggest concern with table instability is that it might break if it's old or cracked, or if a very heavy person were to jump on it. You can also lower the table more than you usually would (especially since it's sports massage) to keep the center of gravity low to help ease this concern of yours.

Even if grass is a bit wet, it shouldn't be super slippery unless it's raining. Wear sneakers or some kind of shoe with some traction and you should be fine.

I do think you're over analyzing this. I did outdoor massage under a tree (no overhead structure for cover) in the grass by the beach for about 2 years on a regular basis, in a humid environment (sometimes lightly raining) barefoot most of the time and never had a problem.

An event like that should be fun! Let us know how it goes.

Thanks for the tips, Shiva. I guess as a newbie, I am just a little gun shy at the very thought of something happening. I was really only thinking that tipping might be a factor if the legs aren't sitting on the same plane because their is a slight hill or something (it's a very hilly park), with the addition of lots of leaning into the table. The table is in great condition; no cracks, instability, etc.

The grass should be OK to work on, I guess, but since it's early morning, it may be dewy. As a former New Mexican myself, I know there isn't a lot of grass there. ;)

I hope all goes well and that the event is, indeed, as fun as I think it will be! Thanks again.
 
HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

BklynGrl said:
The grass should be OK to work on, I guess, but since it's early morning, it may be dewy. As a former New Mexican myself, I know there isn't a lot of grass there. ;)

:) As I said, I worked on a grassy beach for years so I am familiar with grass. I grew up in FL and lived in Hawaii. :)

She told you the ground would be even, so I would take her at her word. Maybe bring some cardboard or other accessories you could prop under a table leg if it's not quite even enough for good stability. (but if it's that uneven, your greater concern might be the client sliding off the table). The farthest I would go would be to emphasize to her that you need a pretty flat spot to set up at and offer to come early to help set up the tent in a place that would work for you, this way you can determine if you will be able to have some control over where it gets set up.

And this way if you emphasize that you cannot work safely without a flat spot, if she tries to set you up on the side of a hill or something you can remind her of what you stated as your needs. Also, they probably can't set up a tent without having a fairly even spot.
 
HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

I believe there is a post around here somewhere, but I can't locate it right now --- it has to do with using coffee cans for the legs of your table, or something similar to keep the table legs from getting damaged and giving you a better surface to work on.

I'll try to locate it. Maybe someone else knows the thread I am thinking about. :)

I've used plastic cups for a session that was in a very muddy spot outdoors. Fair... not perfect, as far as the cups were concerned... the table legs wanted to try and press through.


Here's a little info on one therapists experience in a stream:
amt said:
My other favorite session was slightly more difficult to set up, but worth every bit of the labor. I placed plastic trash bags around the legs of me table and did a session while standing in a shallow slow moving stream in the wilderness area near Mt. Rainier, WA.



10/17/11 - typo
 
HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

pueppi said:
I believe there is a post around here somewhere, but I can't locate it right now --- it has to do with using coffee cans for the legs of your table, or something similar to keep the table legs from getting damaged and giving you a better surface to work on.

I'll try to locate it. Maybe someone else knows the thread I am thinking about. :)

I've used plastic cups for a session that was in a very muddy spot outdoors. Fair... not perfect, as far as the cups were concerned... the table legs wanted to try and press through.


Here's a little info on one therapists expereince in a stream:
amt said:
My other favorite session was slightly more difficult to set up, but worth every bit of the labor. I placed plastic trash bags around the legs of me table and did a session while standing in a shallow slow moving stream in the wilderness area near Mt. Rainier, WA.

Excellent, Pueppi! Thanks for that. And, thanks again for the additional suggestions, Shiva, on reiterating that I need *not* to be on a hill.

I know my concerns may seem silly to you veterans, but like I said, I am new, and in school they really hammered home not doing anything silly that might cause a law suit. I am kinda Type A anyway (or, more of a "Metal" type in Five Element shiatsu theory, lol), so I play by the book. Need to learn sometimes to let go and take things as they come. :oops:
 
HELP needed! Safe set up for sports massage outdoors

Personally, I think it's a great question. We're happy you are here and hope you will tell us all about the experience too. :)

Found the thread: Relay for Life

Lori117 said:
I bring a lot of stuff, baby wipes, hand towel, hand sanitizer, face cradle covers. I have a few clear plastic frame signs on the table with my office info at a glance. I bring coffee cans for my table legs to protect them from dirt, dew or any mushy fields.
 
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  35. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  36. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl & Asian girl today
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  43. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  46. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young slime Summer 30โ€™s, pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nana, Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
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