First tel. call from male wanting a "bit extra"!

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I had a telephone call from a "gentleman" this evening wanting more information on IHM. When I asked what he would like to know, he asked if I offered "any other types of massage" No, just IHM and reflexology. "So you don't offer any other body massage?" No, like I said, just IHM and reflexology, and I gave a brief description of IHM. He didn't stay on the phone long......

Am I a bit naive? I can understand this kind of enquiry with body massage, but wasn't expecting it in reply to a IHM advert. I think my advert is quite clear on what I offer and the benefits (helps with anxiety, stress, insomnia, sinusitis. No reference to stress relief.....)

My husband is now a bit worried that if this is the type of call you get, that I will get nuisance calls, text messages, etc. I have accepted a male client for IHM, bu I think I sensed straight away that this call wasn't right, and believe that they go with the territory and that you need to politely and firmly explain what you DO offer!

Has anyone else advertising non full body massage had this type of enquiry, and if so, is it a frequent occurrence? Any tips on dealing with these calls, or avoiding them in the first place?!

Thanks!
 
It is nearly impossible to avoid these calls ... get a group of therapists together and I'm sure that before long everyone starts comparing notes on dodgy calls.

Most people just try it on to try and find someone to satisfy them, once you clearly state your position you don't hear from them again. Warning signs are witheld numbers, and an urgency to the appointment is often a clue - if they can't wait a day or two for an appointment then that can set of alarm bells. I get these quite regularly now, never really bothered by them - just state the case and move on to the next real client. The first few can be a bit un-nerving I know.

The only thing I would ask is that you don't tarnish all male clients with the same brush. Be careful, be aware but remember this is a tiny percentage of men and why run the risk of cutting your potential client base in half.

Mat xx
 
Hi ya Sparkie

As a male massage/bodywork practitioner who talks often to my female colleagues about such matters, I would say be careful but don't be put off by the occasional pervert. They are the minority! Unfortunately some men can't tell the difference between therapeuticmassage and prostitution. This is partly a cultural problem. I also think that some men get confused between sensuality and sexuality, another cultural problem.

Go with your intuition and recommendations from people you know. I feel that the more complementary therapies get recognised, the more situations like you mentioned won't occur so much.

Best Wishes

Dave the Reiki Pixie

P.S. In 10 years of practice I have had 2 dodgey phone calls from men. It not just female practitioners perverts ring! It just life and we have to deal with it. I had a mad person chasingafter me the last week on a tricycle and I had to call the police. After I calmed down, I just got onwith the day.Looking back in hindsight it was quite funny.

P.P.S. Thinking about it, a crazy womenin aTai Chi class I was teaching a few years ago behind my back was accusing me of "heavy breathing and lude language"on the phone to her. My other students (all women) were so concerned they had to tell me, as they know me as a man of integrity. Luckily she never came back and I didn't have to chuck herout as a trouble maker.Not so funny, situations like that can ruin careers!
 
I receive quite a few calls like this and when I first started advertising upto 4/5 per week! However, you do soon tell which are genuine enquiries by asking a few questions and also as someone else mentioned, these callers usually want an appointment straight away and only have a mobile number.


Ellie x
 
Hi ya Darren

She wasn't quite all there (a sandwich short of a picnic or if you are scientific, a electron short of a full outer shell). I found out later she had been disruptive in other classes at the same centre. I don't think it was to do with me. I never had that problem before or after. Contri to popular new age thinking,LIFE isn't always fluffy bunny with angelic vibrations looking after us, nevertheless I enjoy every moment of it. (That's a joke about angels, please no comments, don't send send me to hell for not being a non-believer).

Cheers

Dave
 
hiya,

we have another active thread regarding this at the moment,
think its called massage wording, check it out as we are discussing the same problem.
 
Thanks Daisychain for the link in massage. I have had a read and it seems to be quite a common problem. There were some good tips there on wording on posters and websites. I will recheck mine, but didn't think there was anything misleading..............

Thank you to everyone else for their input too. Some good advice!

To Dave, I'm sure I shouldn't have, but I did have a giggle as I pictured you running down a road with a tricyle in hot pursuit!

Best wishes
 
[sm=wave.gif]Hi, here's the direct link to that thread

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=462813&mpage=1&key=&#462813]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=462813&mpage=1&key=&#462813[/link]
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Amy
xx
 
Hi, i a reflexologist and i also do indian head massage and am mobile.
I had a call from a male inqiring then he boked me, it was nerve racking as you are always thinking about safty and my husband worries about me.
I have my second male client in a couple of weeks, i have not had any funny calls, but i do find male clients nerve racking but i think with experence i will get better at handerling them.
 
I wonder if it would be a good idea to say up front when they book that no other services are offered. If they are a genuinely interested client, then they would understand. You could even say that you have to mention this as some potential clients have asked in the past.
 
This sounds like a sensible idea! I may be tempted to clarify this in a polite and non offensive way in future.

Also, to avoid any misinterpretation on arrival, I would pay particular attention to appearance (as you do anyway, but even more important with males), ie. uniform with not a lot of chest area on show, membership badge, hair tied back, very little make up. Try not to be over-familiar etc. Also,someone know where I am and expect my call or text afterwards.

Having said this, I only did my first male client this morning! I did all these things, and also had a panic alarm close to hand in my bag. When I turned up, he was in a dressing gown! Rather loose and short too!I said I assumed he had some shorts underneath and he said no! I politely suggested he would be best attired in some shorts or trousers. He asked if pants were ok, and Iinsisted on shorts or trousers.He did oblige (phew!). I remained, calm, polite, in control, and left no room for misinterpretation.

I was rather unnerved and would have been prepared to leave, but it went brilliantly, he wanted the IHM for all the right reasons, and I'm glad I did it.
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Emily๐Ÿ”ฅA sweet shy Korean executive secretary with a passion for pleasing. Excellen
  34. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๐Ÿ’„.very big boost Sunny and Thin and cute new girl Vivian working today,Sunny is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐Ÿ’„Vivian can provide deep tissue massage,very friendly ,she got a lot experience, nice beautiful face, very popular,weekend Welcome to relax here๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ
  35. Fish001:
    I'll likely buy your dirty panties. Text Only: (647) 477-0954
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Jenny, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Shasa,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. lotushubspa:
    Hello, dear customers, today Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13 and provides female masseuses for customers. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธTaiwan, China and South Korea have Anna.๐Ÿ’‹Cici๐Ÿ’‹Jissica๐Ÿ’‹ to provide customers with first-class service attitude and a large number of beauties๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ9052375885 or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคช
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA & LUNA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. Sugar Love Spa
  42. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Noor is here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086๐Ÿ’„ Noor is a medium build Indian lady with nice services๐Ÿ’„ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  43. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Tina, Caribbean Sophie and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl yuki big boobs ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spacesh
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Anida, Sophia & Cindy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anida has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch bbbj, cfs, and remains famous
  46. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Sunday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & MIA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. MIA is a young 27 JAPANESE girl, curvy, good massage bbj cim, nice and open minded.
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4
  49. See You Health Center:
    Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girlโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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