China Beijing

[denise t]

Does anyone have any contacts for a good full service massage parlor, or an outcall massage / escort girl in Beijing?

Always can find a girl at the HR massageplanete, but too expensive.. and too professional. Looking for a young enthuisastic girl.

thanks,

 

[diekery]

beware with cctv in your room

 

[phat_face1989]

does anyone know what action is available in and around this hotel ?

 

[Sweetlollipop]

BEIJING, Jan. 27 -- The latest official figures show the AIDS transmission pattern in China has changed.

In this country, AIDS is no longer an epidemic that preys mainly on high-risk groups such as drug users.

Now half of new victims catch the virus through sexual contact, which is facilitating the spread of the disease from high-risk groups to the general population.

But the public's knowledge of AIDS remains dangerously limited.

The country is now in urgent need of more awareness campaigns and education programmes that can effectively reach every corner of this vast land.

It is also essential to make educational programmes regular, instead of merely one-off matters.

People no longer believe AIDS to be a disease from overseas. But many are still not aware of the dangers of the killer, which has the potential to affect everybody everywhere.

The government has made efforts to educate the public. Posters promoting AIDS awareness and the use of condoms have appeared in public places such as subway cars in big cities.

But much more still needs to be done.

It is not an easy task in a country with a population of 1.3 billion, with a significant portion always on the move.

But the country's efficiency in educating people during the SARS epidemic of 2003 indicates that to make information widely known is far from a mission impossible.

If preventative measures are in place, AIDS can be avoided more easily than SARS.

The point is, how can we present messages about safety and ensure they are taken onboard?

As in many places in the world, education about AIDS can be tricky because it is related to sex.

For example, promoting the use of condoms remains a tough job thanks to conservative attitudes towards sex.

Educating young people about safety is an even more contentious matter.

But when people are made fully aware of the situation, almost everyone, including parents and teachers, will surely come to realize educating children is reasonable.

In a country with a strong government, officials' awareness is particularly important.

At the moment, it is crucial that top officials at each level of government realize the threat posed by AIDS.

The number of infections is low now, but ineffective control could eventually lead to an explosive spread, causing huge human losses and exerting a devastating pressure on economic and social development.

Top officials have the power to mobilize resources to educate people.

The central government has started to train county-level officials in AIDS knowledge to make sure the organizers of information programmes know what they are talking about.

The latest findings show China has overestimated the number of AIDS cases within its borders.

But this is not the time for complacency.

If the public still does not take the threat seriously, the phantom of AIDS may well manifest itself as a disaster.

 

[LasNoches]

Over 86.000 views and only 76 replies what gives?!?!?!?!?

HIV/AIDS in China: from high-risk groups to general population



As of the end of 2005, the population officially believed to be living with HIV/AIDS in China was around 650,000, 75,000 AIDS patients included, with an average prevalence of 0.05 percent.

About 70,000 new cases occurred in the same year and about 25,000 people died of the disease across the country.

The above figures were announced at a press conference on the 2005 Update on HIV/AIDS Epidemic and Response in China, a report jointly undertaken by the Chinese Ministry of Health, the Joint United Nations Program on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) and the World Health Organization (WHO).

Overestimation on commercial blood donors before

As Dr. Hendrik Bekedam, WHO representative to China commented at the press conference, the latest assessment is reliable and representative, and gives a more objective evaluation of the situation in China.

Compared to that of 2003, the 2005 estimation is 190, 000 HIV cases lower.

According to Wang Longde, the Chinese vice minister of health, the smaller numbers of HIV cases and AIDS patients estimated this time than in 2003, are mainly due to the overestimation of the number of HIV infections through commercial blood donation in 2003.

Previously there were reports saying that in Henan Province alone, there are several hundred thousand plasma donors infected with HIV. However, after examination on the 280, 000 blood donations in the province, over 20,000 were tested positive, a number far lower than reported and imagined.

Wu Zunyou, director of the National Center for AIDS/STD Control and Prevention of the Chinese Center for Disease Prevention and Control (China CDC), who has been engaged in the investigation, the assessment was conducted in a very down-to-earth manner. After examination in Henan Province, the Ministry of Health sent experts to examine the accuracy and reliability of the statistics through field investigations.

Distribution of people living with HIV and AIDS

As summed up in the assessment, the distribution of Chinese people living with HIV/AIDS is as what follows:

1. There are approximately 288,000 drug takers living with HIV/AIDS, constituting 44.3 percent of the total estimation. Those in the seven provinces and autonomous regions of Yunnan, Xinijang, Guangxi, Guangdong, Guizhou, Sichuan and Hunan account for 89.5 percent of the total cases estimated in this group.

2. Former commercial blood and plasma donors and recipients of blood or blood products through transfusions total 69,000, accounting for 10.7 percent of the total number estimated.

Those in the five provinces of Henan, Hubei, Anhui, Hebei and Shanxi take up 80.4 percent of the total cases nationwide.

3. As 19.6 percent of the total estimated cases, approximately 127,000 sex workers and customers are living with HIV/AIDS.

There are approximately 109, 000 partners of HIV-positive people and members of the general population suffering from HIV/AIDS, making up 10.9 percent of the total.

4. Among the current 75,000 AIDS patients, about 22,000 got contracted through commercial blood and plasma donation and blood transfusion; about 53, 000 of them through drug injection, sex and mother-to-child transmission.

5. 10,000 of the 25, 000 deaths or so occurred among former commercial blood and plasma donors. The estimated 70,000 new cases all year round, which mean 200 cases per day, were mainly among high-risk groups such as drug users, sex workers and their clients, men who have sex with men (MSM) and partners with infected people.

HIV/AIDS still on the rise

Wang Longde said the lower numbers do not mean a positive turn of the HIV/AIDS situation in China.

The assessment reveals that while the overall prevalence remains low in the country, there is high prevalence in certain areas and among key groups. Moreover, the epidemic is spreading from high-risk groups to ordinary people.

He also noted the HIV/AIDS is primarily being transmitted through injection drug use and sex, and the latter has caused sharply increasing HIV cases.

Five characteristics of HIV/AIDS in China

1. Wide spread with significant geographic variation

By the end of November 2005, Henan and Yunnan have each reported over 30, 000 cumulative HIV cases; Guangxi, Xinjiang and Guangdong have each reported over 10, 000.

In Xinjiang, Yunnan and Sichuan, etc., HIV prevalence among injection drug users exceeds 50 percent, while that in Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Inner Mongolia, Liaoning and other provinces remains below five percent.

2. All modes of transmission are found

Drug use and sexual contact are the dominant modes of HIV transmission. The cases are mainly associated with injection drug use or sexual transmission, which account for 48.6 percent and 49.8 percent respectively.

3. AIDS-related deaths serious

Between 2004 and 2005, there was a peak of new cases, in which the number of AIDS deaths accounted for 63.4 percent of the cumulative reported figure across the country.

4. Epidemic spreading from high-risk groups to the general population

HIV is seen spreading from drug users, sex workers and their clients and other high-risk groups to the general population. In some areas of Yunnan, Henan, Xinjiang and other regions, HIV prevalence already exceeds one percent among pregnant women and those taking premarital and clinical HIV testing, reaching the level of generalized epidemic set by UNAIDS.

5. There is potential danger of further spread

National surveillance data indicate that 45.5 percent of injection drug users are sharing syringes and 11 percent drug users are engaged in high-risk sexual activities. Other important factors include mobility of large number of people, increasing risky sexual behavior and rising occurrence of venerable disease.

WHO warns that if not responded through effectual measures, HIV cases in China will amount to 10 million in 2010. As the Chinese Minister of Health Gao Qiang said, the figure will be controlled under 1.5 million.

By People's Daily Online


http://english.people.com.cn/200601/27/eng20060127_238859.html

 

[Old Hippie]

I've been to Maggis twice and had a "take away" on both occasions and both proved to be reasonable experiences. Both times Mongolian girls and neither in a big rush to leave in the morning. Can't remember now what it cost but no more than $ 100.00 and most likely a little less.

 

[italian_mami]

Travelling to Bejing in 6 weeks and would like to try a sauna experience - i am also going to shangai where i understand it is about 700rmb for sauna, massage and full sex with rimming. can anyone give any recomendations and range of costs for bejing. much appreciated. will post my experiences upon return.

 

[Max S]

Hello guys, I heard "Hou Hai" is much better than "San Li Tun" as the gals are much cheaper, and able to find good quality. Has anyone been to that area and able to share the experience? Thanks!

 

[ideal22us]

-First night Maggies. Directions in previous posts. Quite a few girls after 10pm. Finally chose a robust Mongolian and took her out. 800rmb. No trouble getting her in the Hilton. Bad sex. Not very active or interested. Got dressed and went back to Maggies to make another 800. Getting depressed about Beijing.

-Second night Lufthunsa Center near Kempinski. Never do street walkers because I feel like a dildo chatting them up on the corner. This was good though. Girl feel into step with me as I walked by. Whispered 'massage' 500rmb. I said ok and gave her my room number. Never broke stride. 10 minutes later she was at the door. Good fun and a value. Tried to get extra 100 for bj. Refused and got it anyway. Offered her 400 more for anal and she refused. Did her doggie and finished. She tried to convince me we had done anal and wanted the extra money. Was funny more than threatening. Just paid her the orignal price and sent her on. Actually not bad. She had that funny Chinese ass.

-Third night Hard Rock. From 9pm to 10:59pm, you have 50 gringos lining the bar. Then at 11pm, 60 girls all walk in almost at the same time. Like they came on a bus. Girls start working the room. Approached by nice bod girl. She was a spaz and offered for 1000rmb. Sent her off. Chatted another girl. She wanted 2000rmb. After talking her down to 1000, tossed her for spaz. Offered her 500 and she bit. Turned out to be good fun.

Hope this helps.
Mexicano

 

[SuperBeth]

I will most likely be staying at the Prime Hotel on Wangfujing Ave. near tiananmen square. I have had experiences with ladies locally in the states, mainly in Las Vegas. And I have to say, from low priced to high priced, I generally don't like the experience, the whole "hurry up and cum" attitude, I mean, I know its a business, but I like to enjoy myself you know?

I also read your many reviews of BJ area parlors and hangouts to pickup professionals. I can't say I'm encouraged to do so. I guess my question is, where should a mid-20's guy go to find local Chinese girls that DON'T want my money for sex? Or is there such a thing? LOL. I've always had an affinity for asian women, especially, Chinese. So, I would like to make the most of my trip and if possible, meet up and hook up with some local hotties. Thanks

 

[b_witch]

Hi guys,
I PM'd a fellow Canadian here about the current places in Beijing, and from his experience he said:

Hard Rock is hit or miss, alot of westerners. It seems the free ones hang at the far of the bar, not far from the guys can, same wherever you go. Just make eye contact and buy them a drink. Mongolian, some chinese, and russian.

Just a heads up about this place, it is crazy expensive for Beijing, let alone china. 100RMB cover and then about 60 RMB a beer.

I tried to go to Passions next door at the great wall sheraton for some quality, but they are closed under renovation.

Check out Maggies, lots of girls, and the Irish bar in the Holiday Inn Lido, it will be a bit of a run in the taxi, but taxis are cheap. You can always have a look around Satilun, you may even get some free stuff, I did .

Stay away from KTV unless you got a good chinese friend who can know whats going on. They will rob you blind.

There are lots of girls everywhere, bargin hard.

Also, the make sure the read the forums about girl friendly hotels. Some of the places are trying to change thier image due to the Olypics coming.

Happy hunting eh!


Thanks for that info!

 

[P6590]

I'm staying at the Kempinski in a few weeks. I know many hotels have a massage service inhouse and some will allow "inroom massage" where you can negotiate with the girl for full service. Does anyone know if this is true at the Kempinski? I saw posts about picking up girls outside as well, but is there any difficulty in getting by the guard at the elevator? Is there any way to have them come to the room solo and still get past the guard?

Thanks...

 

[jokerman131]

Wow 20,000 views and only 73 replies!! whats up with that my brothers? theres should be at least 10,000 replies on this thread alone, stop being lurkers, and start being contributors towards the Mongering Cause.

China sees red over sex for sale
(Reuters)
Updated: 2005-09-23 09:02

BEIJING - A red-light district next to a "Red Tourism" site dedicated to China's revolutionary martyrs meant some visitors were getting more than "patriotic education," Xinhua news agency said Thursday. Reuters reported.

A court in southwestern Sichuan province this week sentenced a hotel manager and four accomplices to jail terms of eight months to 12 years for providing prostitutes next to the Martyrs' Mausoleum.

Police and officials bribed to ignore the illegal activities near the monument in the city of Luzhou had previously been punished, Xinhua said on its English Web site, www.chinaview.cn, without specifying.

"(The hotel manager) organized sexual services and striptease performances," it said.

China has declared 2005 the year of Red Tourism, promoting travels to sites where Communist heroes were born, lived or fought.

The mausoleum stands as tribute to 64 people who died for the revolutionary cause since 1911, when China's last imperial dynasty, the Qing, was overthrown.

The Communist Party all but eradicated prostitution in China after sweeping to power in 1949, yet it has returned in a big way over the past two decades of market reforms.

The crimes were exposed by state television early this year, prompting an investigation and the arrests of the five suspects.

Xinhua hailed the case as an example of "aggressive investigative journalism in China."


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-09/23/content_480282.htm

 

[Laredo]

The last time I was there, back in December of '04, I paid $60 dollars US.
I would say the average is around that, some asking for $100 dollars US.
She was very sexy. I think the Mongolian ladies are quite attractive as compaired to the Chinese. Mongolian ladies have some very attractive features. They have great bodies as compared to normal Chinese.
Just my observation.

 

[dickie]

Maggies bar has been changed to another address, check this website
http://www.maggiesbar.com/

 

[han]

how much did you pay for the mongolian in that bar?

 

[WilliamGreenn]

Not sure of the hotel.
If you need directions to Maggie's Bar. Go to their website. They have a map you can print in Chinese to give to a Taxi driver.
Have fun

 

[wesley g]

Chinese govt inviting me to Beijing to give some lectures end of Sept 2005. Not sure what hotel, but sure it will be nice. Any tip on getting some ladies to room? How much? Been to most other countries many times... Bangkok, Manila, Angeles City, Ho Chi Mihn, Jakarta (tough getting them there)... others; all were very inexpensive. Saw some talk about very expensive in Beijing. Any help will be apreciated. I like them petite, late 20's to late 30's. English almost a must... only know a few words in Chinese.

Thanks PWA

 

[McBraas]

Thanks for the info!!

As it turns out, I have already booked a room in the Gloria Plaza Hotel, a four star business hotel located at 2 Jianguomennan Avenue, Beijing 100022. I hope that is somewhere near the action? I have never been to the city before so I trusted in some recommendation for a hotel.

Does anybody know about the hotel - is sex action there also sometimes (bar etc.)?

Please see also my previous posting re info on Beijing sex action. Great!

 

[Hawkeye]

Having been to Beijing many times over the last five years, I have some suggestions for you.
The one place I have always gone is Maggies Bar. It is around Workers Stadium. It is a fun bar with a good staff, music dance floor and pool tables.
Most of the ladies who go there, are nice and are willing for a fair price. I have had quite a few ladies. Mostly from Mongolia. I find them quite hot as compared to other Chinese.

The Hard Rock is another, but the selection is not as nice.
I have also been to a disco called Bannana Disco. It has been a long time that I went there, so I am not sure how it is now.

I was just at Maggies in December of '04. It was still good. Best price I have gotten was $60 used for a night. Mostly it is close to $100 USD for an all night. There is also some Russian girls, but not as nice as the Mongolian's.

I hope that helps. Pick a hotel close to the area.