Big $ scam by Karon Bar Girl

[esa8025]

sadly... I am starting to agree with this as well... I started off feeling sympathy for the OP... but I can see the longer this thread goes on... the more I'll start developing some sympathy with the BG Mo... oh dear... what does that say about me? :neutral:

 

[damnyankeega]

There are many unscrupulous bg's here. It's the risks of the business. This story is a good warning to others! And as we all know, the farang never wins here! This is not the first story I've heard where the lady bruises herself and calls the police to scam money from the punter. They know all the tricks, and know the police will side with them or even be in (or be bought in) on the whole thing.

And pissed-off Thai women can be extremely vindictive and ruthless! My neighbor had a fight with a bg last night here. Whacked him upside his head with the TV remote and her shoe! She stormed off, but I wouldn't be surprised if she returned at some point, possibly with some friends, looking for revenge. And I warned him of such, and to be vigilant when in the area where he found her!

I feel bad for Malibu, but as hard as it may be to do the best thing is to put it behind you, as others have suggested. I hope things work out for you, but is best to forget it and be warier next time around mate!

 

[Danii]

The lesson I have learned is do not pay money to the police without an official receipt. If arrested ask arrange to pay bail only (with a receipt).:rules:
If their on a scam a very small bribe will get you off.
Too bad that you had a plane to catch... you lost a bargaining chip there.

PS: Always inform the bar manager of bad girls, let them deal with it.
I had one staff who came good with one lecture from me, she's great now.

 

[manu4live]

After a night in Patong Beach with a Bar Girl I met at a bar near my hotel In Karon Beach...we return to my room, she was a bit drunk...not willing to play in bed I told her to leave...she refused...started to shout at me I tried to tell to calm down relax..Ok no sex no problem just leave...after 10 minutes of this I opened the door pushed her out and did not pay the 1500 bht....my mistake.... as she self-inflected bruse marks on her arms, called the cops and they said I was to be arrested for hurting a woman if I did not pay her 30,000 bht. I told the cops I never hurt her...to avoid arrested I paid...after driving with the cops and her to the cop shop...and back to Karon Circle all the while she is yelling at me. From the begining of that day I thought she was a bit strange..like she was planning something...different then other bar girls..and made a big mistake in not following my gut feelings...My cabie friend In Karon Beach said he knows of her as he took us to Patong early that day..and she has a history of ripping of farlangs...and he said the Cops were involved in the scam... Her name is Mo,perhaps 32 years old always wears blue jeans and works at one of the many small bars near where the taxis park up a short distance on the left side from Karon Circle. I have been to Thailand many times and never had any problems with any girls before..lond time or short..with or with out sex...I feel really bad about the whole thing...please avoid responding to this posting if you want to tell me how stupid I am...Does anyone know of this girl ? Of course the story is not a new one...and ofcourse I feel extremely bad at it all... rage at the girl? no..the only thing i said to her as I gave her the $ with the Cops stand at her side was " I feel very sad for you Mo, you did not have to do this" All of this going on at 4 in the morning at Karon Circle. I am only happy I avoided beening arrested...the land of smiles ? Yes I made a big mistake in not just paying her 1500 bht and saying goodbye...Guys be careful...I was't...

 

[Lucylu]

Nothing to do with money exactly?

I had a ST once that wouldn't leave (my experince was 80% would run out the door back to secure another ST before bar closing etc). :info:

I just had a sort of gut feel she would rip me off something as I slept.:zzz:

As she slept, I packed my small bag (I travel light, buy everything at destination)

Walked downstairs, paid for the cheapest room...settled into that one.

Waited about 1 hr then got the Manager and Hotel Security to "bounce" her out...Reason - Not with Guest and Name not on booking (Manager came up with that excuse, sharp I thought). :rules:

I slept the night in the spare room, just in case.

I is a shite experience for sure what has happened to the BM and I am glad he has shared it with us, especially the MIB connection (cnuts). Some good advice to others in the replies.


SD
:tuxout:

 

[Brookie]

If the incident as related by the op is real, then how could you feel sympathy for the bg?? And if the incident as related by the op is NOT real, then still, why would you feel sympathy for the bg?? I personally know a Swiss guy who was scammed in the same way. It's not outside of the realm of possibility. If you believe all bg's are sweet innocent things just waiting for some farang to rescue them from a life of poverty, then you're only fooling yourself. True story or not, it can still serve as a good wake-up kick for someone.

 

[Client_u]

Malibu......let it go and move on.
It is not doing you any good by sitting in Dubai thinking about it.
As we say here in Australia......"you will do you head in".......and that is not good for you.

 

[iiinycboi]

The few times I've ended up with a crazy girl, I always just pay them and tell them to leave, even though nothing happened. I consider it money well spent, just to be rid of them.

Rex

 

[Deena Lockers]

I agree it is a good wake up call... and that is what interested me in the thread... and I did have sympathy with the guy... it didn't sound pleasant... but then it deteriorated into the rantings of a bitter man who had lost his family, house and his 1966 world cup winners medal... not 50,000 baht to a bar girl.... so I think because we have all been scammed somehow, somewhere along the road of life... by bar girls... and other humans... (particularly by govt lol) we all have empathy... and it is a good warning to others... and we all had sympathy with him.... but then the thread gets silly.... for his sake its best to move on... otherwise he'll stress himself out for weeks or months... yes, by all means tell us who it is and which bar... but unless he is returning to sort it out himself... well... he must have other things in life more worrying than that!

 

[Basit]

Actually he said it was 30000 baht. 10000 in the car and then when they came back later after figuring out he was an easy target they convinced him to get another 20000 from the atm.

 

[PBM seeking RWW]

He did seem to go a bit overboard at the end... I can understand being upset, and probably even more upset once home after a long flight with time to think about it. But in the end you chalk it up to experience and learn from it. Good thing was (real or not) that he posted it. It's too easy to think all is peaches and cream in LOS, and that it can't happen here. People should understand that p4p is a risky game.

 

[murali]

Fortunately these stories are few and far between. Certainly sounds like this girl is bad news. I would say always trust your 1st instincts about a girl, if something seems wrong move on. There is alway the next girl who will show you a good time....
I sympathise with the OP with regards to paying the money. At that time of the morning and probably being drunk i think alot of people would panic and do the same . What is the number for the tourist police, think will put it in my phone just in case ?

 

[Your Teeth or Mine?]

Pay them just to leave is the safe bet, but also the hardest to swallow; maybe only the principle.
I have been in a compromising situation twice. Nothing crazy.
Once I paid and forgot, the other I paid 1/2 as it was a LT that turned to an ST.
In the case of the second incident she left updet and I for sometime was worried that retaliation could come.
If paying up and forgeting is not an option for you, I would suggest calling hotel security and ask them to escort the girl out of your room.

 

[Kaycee]

Reading the details of these events seems to indicate that it was a total scam with the local police guys (BiB) completely in on the deal!

Here is a tactic that is recommended by the Tourist Police if you believe that you are being drawn into a scam by the local BiB police. Take out your mobile phone and tell the BiB that you are a genuine tourist and that you are contacting your embassy for immediate help. Do not agree to go along with any scam/payment, especially if they are trying to settle the deal away from the police station.

(It obviously helps to have the number of your embassy/consulate...)

In practice, even if you are able to contact your embassy, they probably will not help you! But on several previous incidences, the BiB have immediately dropped any scam attempts when they believed that the victim is actively telephoning his embassy, so it's worth a try!

BTW, to say in Thai 'I will contact my embassy', you can say 'pom ja ditdor satantoot' [ผมจะติดต่อสถานทูต]

Otherwise, you can try to contact the Touirst Police by calling 1155 and ask to speak with an foreign volunteer officer who speaks good English. (I am aware that you might not be able to do this in the middle of the night - several of us are on 24/7 call, but I still need to sort out the 1155 service so that it routes through to a duty officer in the wee small hours).

Simon

 

[Sophieeeeeee]

Thanks for the good advice, Simon! :great:

 

[All Star]

Just remembered at little incident i had with a bg in Pattaya a couple of years ago...

I was with a mate doin the usual bar hoping, throughout the night we managed to lose each other.. I ran out of money so i went to the ATM and pulled out 15,000 baht.. I always pull out enought to get me through the next day as well...

I was very drunk so i decided to make my way home (hotel) which was in second road.. I popped into a few bar as i was walking back ,at my last stop i saw a group of girls and i sat with them having drinks.. As i went to leave i went to pay my bill and stooooopid me took the bundle out, as soon as that happened they all jumped on me to go back with me...I didnt notice why because i was heavily intoxicated at the time so i grabbed a little cracker with me..

Got back to room and did the deed, fell asleep immediately after and woke in the morning with mate knocking on the door saying we gona miss our flight... She was already up and dressed waiting for me... I was packing up and she said ok i have to go... I said just a minute i will pay you... I took out my bundle out of my pocket not noticing anything and gave her 1000 baht as she was gone with the wind never to be seen again...

Once i packed and snapped out of it i checked my pockets again to see how big of a night it was( as you do) and the bundle was gone except 2 thousand baht...

Now i didnt spend alot because i pulled the money out on my way home and i took away the 1000 for the girl... SHE GOT ME..... She was hanging for me to fall asleep and went through my pockets the little cnut and took a good 10 large out and in the morning had the nerve well i guess she wanted to make it as normal as she can to ask for the 1000 as well....

My fault for not noticing, but what can i do... you win some and you lose some....

 

[AFR-CAM]

A few years back I met a fellow Aussie who had been scammed this way on his first night in Karon - his first night in Thailand - the Karon police were clearly in on it - he was a total newbie though.

Interesting (aka disturbing) to see that it still goes on and that they are prepared to target experienced visitors.

Nothing much else you could do but pay them, malibu, once the trap was sprung. Thanks for posting the warning.

 

[Joshu@]

you gotta love the little rascals....5555555!

 

[i love guns]

Don't want to sound too intense her folks, but I feel very thankful for the responds to my posting. I love Thailand, Thai women and those slant -eyes...always I am very generous with the ladies..I have been coming here since the early 70's...I am blown out how I allowed this to happen...me such a cool world traveler ?? Not so cool huh? I am so grateful I was protected ... I was worried if I posted this what would happen...I still see her face like standing in front of me...feel it's time to perhaps stop hanging with Bar Girls and Freelance chicks...it's a dream...in the land of Buddha...while most of the rest of the world has a stream of Blood and Tears, Thailand is littered with used condoms...and KY jelly...I hope I can return and continue to love the LOS...and the nest time look into those slant eyes and cleansed of this experience...

 

[TheDarkFox]

Mate dont let it bother you too much... I know its a little hard to say when it wasnt me, but ive also had a couple little incidents but i just pretend im calling the hotel security and then they calm down.....

Dont let put a downer on Thailand... There are scammers all over the world...
Just put it down as a loss and a good experience to hold on to next time your in town and hanging with bg's.....

It could have happened to anyone.... keep ya head up lad...