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Hello All,
I am desperately seeking advice about a situation that has become very difficult for me. I started massage school 4 weeeks ago and I am one of 3 students, the other 2 in 21 & 23. The teaacher is 21 also! She has been a cmt for 2 years but this is her first time teaching. Long story short the 21 yo guy has an attitude toward me ever since I quit driving himm back and forth to school. I was doing him a favor but he was rude and it was out of my way so I stopped, no thanks, no couple bucks for gas, nothing and it became a negative. Ever since then he has humiliated me on the table and has bonded with the girl 23 year old and the 21 yo teacher and I have been odd person out which is extremely difficult in a situation like this. The teacher is blaming it on my attitude and sides with the young ones. I feel my dream career change at 50 is slipping away and I am getting depressed. If I leave I lose over $2000 and have nothing to show for it, if I stay something needs to change and I don't know what else to do. I try to be positive and get included because they won't include me, but that wears on you after a few weeks. Nobody treats me like a human, they don't ask how I'm doing, or how was my weekend on and on. Any advice appreciated. Also, any advice on finding a mentor?
 


I can hardly imagine a MT school in Milwaukee having classes that small, yikes, times must really be tough for that school! And I can't wrap my mind around a school hiring a 21 year old MT instructor either.

I can certainly understand your not wanting to carpool with someone who is not appreciative of your time or efforts on their behalf.

That he shames you when you are on the table is NOT appropriate and it is obvious that the class needs to learn about Boundaries STAT!

If approaching the instructor about the problems in the classroom personally has done no good, you will need to speak to the administration of the school.

You are a customer, purchasing a quality MT education... if they can't fulfill that they may need to place you in a different class.

Look at it this way, if you don't have a good experience in MT school... how likely are you to do well at this as a career? How likely are you to refer any potential new students to Your MT school? How likely are you to refer other MTs to this school for their Continuing Education needs?

I use this all the time and it usually pays off, it's a quote from Michael Le Bouef's book, "How to Win Customers and keep them for life."

"The average dissatisfied customer tells 26 people." That's when I tell them I am WAY above average.

MassagePlanetL has a membership of over 3800 people, while not all of them live in WI, we have quite a few members in Wisconsin, particularly in the Madison and Milwaukee areas. And some of them may be graduates of your school...

Anyway, please keep us informed about how things work out for you.
:smt056

And above all, welcome to MassagePlanetL!
 
Unacceptable..

I am 59 years old and just graduated school here in SC. My class had 22 students in the beginning (at least my half of the class). Sure there were some young folks who sort of cliqued together and thought they would just work on one another.

The Director of the program and my instructor would have none of that. They rotated partners and soon everyone was asking to be my partner and I developed some wonderful friendships with these kids. I became like their dad/gramps.

Your school needs to take care of you or they could be liable for age discrimination. Talk to someone - don't leave the profession, especially if you love it as much as I do.

Don't take it personally either. Find out if your school is accredited. If so, ask the office for their address if you do not get a resolution to your problem. They will respond to the agency for sure.

Just my two cents worth.
 


Ah the young & ungrateful youth of the world ! Not all of them are like that, but many do have an attitude of the world owes them everything. It's not till they get older that they begin to appreciate & respect other people as they should.

That said, it's not easy when you have a dream, and you run into walls in the process. I'm alot closer to your age than their's and understand your perspective. I'm also surprised that they would hire such a young instructor, who should not be taking sides, or getting chummy with similiar age students. The instructor should have a more professional approach in the position they're in, and simply use this an opportunity to state that as MT's they will be dealing with people of all ages. Therefore this is an ideal situation for them to begin to recognize that people also come from many different places in their experiences, financial backgrounds, etc. and they should begin to appreciate it, learn compassion & respect for those who've been on the planet longer than they have !

And I strongly second the advice to see the school administration, before you make the decision to leave the program & lose your investment (in both time & money) plus your dream !

Good luck.
 


Bring the issue to the school administration. No student should be subjected to the type of treatment you are receiving from the other students, and most especially not from the instructor! :evil:
 


I have a friend that began her training in a school that was newly formed. The owner was someone I knew. She was actually very technically accomplished, but her school was poorly run and made for a very chaotic learning experience.

I don't recall exactly how it transpired, but in her case people complained, the owner couldn't or wouldn't respond to their requests, they complained to the state board, and ended up getting some? all? tuition refunds. She switched mid-term to the same school I had gone to. It was in a much less convenient location, but had a long standing reputation, and she was able to get on with her training. She's been in practice for many years now.

Don't know if this will be a useful tidbit or not, but there you have it. Your situation sounds deplorable, and I can't imagine getting a quality education under those circumstances.

I was "old" when I went to school, and I was in my late 30's. Now I'm passed the half century mark myself! I hope you don't allow this to derail your dream. There's certainly a workable solution in there somewhere..............we're pulling for you!
savannah
 
update

Thanks all for the feedback. I have made efforts to talk to someone and what the school does is tell me they will get back to me 'next week' and they never do. In the mean time they hired an older gal, late 30's maybe? and she is better, but the 21 year old is still there most of the time.
I have been studying hard and still not passing the tests, and am so frustrated I could, and did, cry! The young ones get done first and there I sit while everyone is waiting for me to finish, the one guy leaves, comes back, starts talking, I question my answers, change them, they are wrong, right the first time...I am miserable. I am coming from a very diferent world, ironwork, and that was easier than dealing with so many levels of frustration at once. All the anatomy, flunked muscles, pathology, physiology everyone knows how hard it can be. I think I know the answers yet can not trasfer the knowledge to a test.
these kids drink the night before tests and before clinic! still pass the tests. yikes, who would want a hung over kid who has not even changed his clothes from the day before.
I keep being told to 'relax, breathe, don't freak out'. That makes me more stressed because that magnifies my state of mind. I wish I knew what to do to make this a positive experience.
 
I can certainly relate

Oh dear- what a situation. :(

Can you give the school a deadline to give you some answers, then follow them up by contacting them immediately on that date? Make it a point of customer satisfaction like the others have mentioned.

On a personal note-I know it's hard with your other issues- I'm twice the age of most the kids and although I'm lucky that there are a few others my age (the class I'm in is considerably bigger- 90 or so..)- I too sometimes envy their youthfulness- but I try to keep in mind that I was quite similar at that age. But don't let it distract you from YOUR goals, and don't get drawn in to their adolescent dramas. ( I'm formerly guilty of that too ..)

Don't forget to take some time out for yourself.

oh & is it possible to write the test in a room alone? Our school allows it.
If not don't forget that that test time belongs to you, again don't get distracted by the others.

ps- do you also have the option to go "part time?" I did and found it very helpful.
 
50 thing

I was asked about going into another room next time by another teacher and I will do that next time. You response is wonderful, too. People are great here, I heart you all!

The advice is well taken, and yes, there is the young drame, things I can hardly believe, but they don't get it yet. I was a party person also at that age, but was an art major, I could not even imagine working on clients hung over!

I will embrace your wisdom along with the other replies I get.

Thanks goodness I took the time to sit down and post.

Whew!
 
50 thing

coro said:
I was asked about going into another room next time by another teacher and I will do that next time. You response is wonderful, too. People are great here, I heart you all!

The advice is well taken, and yes, there is the young drame, things I can hardly believe, but they don't get it yet. I was a party person also at that age, but was an art major, I could not even imagine working on clients hung over!

I will embrace your wisdom along with the other replies I get.

Thanks goodness I took the time to sit down and post.

Whew!

From one art major to another-Your very welcome-!

Re: "they don't get it yet"

Again- with their age in mind, try to find it in your heart to allow them to be young and make their own mistakes- and don't hold it against them. Otherwise *you will* be regarded as an " ol' crotchety person! "
( remember when older people did that *to you* when you were young? ;) )

A key characteristic that will really help you in this biz is to always remain non-judgemental.

let us know how it goes!
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    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, Jenny, Angela, Queenie, Pinky, Grace, Sasha, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  35. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  36. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 open mind Cuban girl (Mimi ) &Asian girl in today
  37. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Singapore ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธindian girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  42. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
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